Weird tech problem...

[Edd2D]

hmm...
Why everytime in late years all keeps trading techs normally and if i try to trade something they asks for instance a total value of 40000 tech points for 7000?? Thats a bit unfair since theyr trading all normally except me!!!
How its possible that im second in GNP and some random civs with 4 cities are more advanced than me?
Ideas?

 

[embryodead]

In trading, the AI will always ask for more from human player than from another AI (how much more depends on the difficulty level). This is normal for all BTS games.

Additionally, in RFC mods there are several rules that can make small civs be more advanced.
- tech rate is slowed down for big empires (if you have more than 10 cities)
- tech rate is increased for small civs (4 or less cities)
- late comers start relatively advanced i.e. small Oman starts with good techs

 

[Edd2D]

First of all, Thank you embryodead, I re-congratulate about ur wonderful mod.
Well, Yes it happens in BTS but the difference is that in SoI civs stay with a low average of income even in 1400 instead of a normal BTS game.
Advanced tech have a huge amount of research points and as a human its impossible for me to stay in same row of AI's....
Ur right about civs starting advanced but for instance civs like mamluk were behind then me at their born, watching techs of all AI's I figured out that they are sharing perfectly....
And I'm researching alone.....
Even a friendy vassal asks 6 techs for 1 low research point tech (always in late year)....
Is there a way for have a more balanced game? I dont ask a 1/1 ratio but a more smart trade....
Otherelse I'll be grateful if you tell me a way for play without tech trading....
Or atleast give some advice about tech trading

Thanks in advance!!

 

[embryodead]

I think you're the first person to bring this up in 2 years, so I'm not sure if it's really an issue... remember that in order to win here, you don't really need to stay ahead of the tech race. Also, if you're having actual problems because of it, you can always lower the difficulty level.

For that matter, there isn't anything special done to the tech trading per se.

 

[blizzrd]

It's not an issue.

Edd2D, you wanted some advice on tech trading. My advice is that espionage is much more efficient than tech trading with the AI. You seem to be concerned about the efficiency of the whole thing.

 

[Edd2D]

I'll be honest to you guys, I've never been something special in Tech Trading, i kept avoiding it in every BTS game.
Espionage? I never use spies, what are useful for? unhappines, watching enemy techs? hmmm
As you can see I passed years playng custom games without Tech Trading or Espionage and this the result.
I'm concerned about the efficiency of Tech Trading system honestly....
If in normal BTS your enemys have limits in SoI are unstoppable, some random civ born with 6 techs more then me for instance and build a very advanced wonder or ur vassal(who should be like your slave) dont even trade fairly with you, but with some random enemy yes....
If you can I advice you to think about this things......
For instance Oman empire is borning on Portugues Empire cause portoguese are unstable? Oman must have same powrtoguese techs, why they start more advanced???
Thanks for your answers...

 

[Jusos2108]

You can steal techs.
You can also make your vassals research techs that you want to trade from them. Make contact with distant civs and befriend with them and always trade techs with the least advanced civ you can find. Honestly, if you tech well, the later spawning civs will be helplessly behind you in tech.

 

[Edd2D]

Steal Techs? I'll try on next game....
About make my vassals research, its useless they wont trade it with me anyway...
Yeah, as islam for instance I removed every christian from the whole middleast and i became Royal Saint, Friendly with all civs and 4 vassals, doubled on land and GNP the second civ....
But I was extremely behind in tech