What is sexually oriented?

[Kilroy]

I think the usual definition of porn is anything that is intended to cause sexual arousal, for anyone. Obviously posting something from a medical journal or a pic of the Venus de Milo isn't porn and shouldn't be bannable (unless the poster is posting it AS PORN, and it would be fairly obvious if he was - any mod worth his salt should be able to take the context of the situation into account).

As for situations, if you create a situation that makes someone feel uncomfortable in a sexual way, then you're probably treading on thin ice.

That's my opinion, anyway - I don't know what the opinions of the Peanut Gallery are.

 

[Ohkrana]

You would think that posting a porn link; you should realize you are asking for trouble!

I'm no expert on what goes on here; but this site is not classified for adult content.

So any 'adult' content could see this site face trouble; maybe even closed.

So the mods have to act on it.

Not to mention people of young ages post here. And I doubt their guardians would be impressed by a porn link in a post.

Personally - I didn't come here to find porn, and I don't want to see that crap!

 

[SunTzu]

Pellaken, you are a very very wierd guy/gal/thing or whatever the hell you are
Hakan should be Perma-banned, we shoud give Pellaken a perm-ban also just cause he doesn't like them and he's too anal about things.
alright bye bye

 

[Simon Darkshade]

I think it all boils down to common sense. Anyone knows porn when they look at it, and should have the discretion to understand that it is inappropriate to be displayed out of its own sordid context.
I did not follow the link that was posted, but it should not have been posted, as it goes beyond the parameters set by He Who Must Be Obeyed.
Some of the other images in those threads were borderline soft core porn, but because they were of females, not a huge fuss was kicked up. Humph. I did not like it, so I did not look at it.

Intentionally breaking the rules in a heinous fashion, on top of past offences building up to it, are IMO grounds for a permanent sanction.

 

[duke o' york]

I'm pretty sure that the "soft" porn pictures that Hakan put in the first Babe thread are still there, and want to make it blindingly obvious that he was not banned because he chose a gay porn site. All porn sites are interdit and I would have thought that everyone would understand this whether or not they have taken the trouble to read the rules. If Hakan wants to go and tell his friends that he has been persecuted on-line for being gay then as far as I'm concerned he can, but it simply isn't true and that wouldn't reflect the policy of this site in any way. Porn is porn and it is also banned here. Post it at your own risk but don't complain when you find yourself unable to come here again. Such idiotic posts deserve the commendable action that the mods take against them, and there can be no complaints. If I was to go and post a link to a neo-nazi site then I would expect to be banned but there's no chance of my ever doing it and besides, if you are interested in such topics then you can go to forums that deal specifically with such things. I'm sure that there are male-only chatrooms all across the web who will be prepared to let Hakan post the kind of porn he wanted to here, but remember that this is a site for the fans of the Civilization series and that such links are banned here.

[edit]: I tried to make it clearer that I was referring to his picture of some chap in his undies on page 1 of that thread, rather than to the picture he was banned for posting, which was not soft in the slightest.

 

[Alcibiaties of Athenae]

For the record, it was a link to a picture of a man shoving his member in another man's behind.

This isn't "soft" porn, it's hardcore, it's prohibited by our server agreement and is CLEARLY spelled out in the rules.

He should be perma-banned, no question about it.

And to all who caused me such difficulty last week by questioning my integrity, I hope this shows I wasn't being malicious, I was doing what I was asked to, police the site.

Cleraly, some need to stop being petty and stop this incessent questioning of motivations and let us do our jobs, or if you can't then I regretfully tell you to post elsewhere, because your making it impossible to enforce rules at CFC.

Complain when justified, of course, but ask first, to avoid foot-in-mouth like last week.

 

[RedWolf]

Ok i've solved our problem.

What Hakan maybe needs is a ROTATING ban... Like ban him for four days, let him post for two. Ban him for four days, let him post for two. And so on and so on. Maybe set up a script that does it
all automatically!

This would save the mods TONS of time. They wouldn't have to worry about any of his infractions beause they would KNOW that in (at most) 2 days he'll be banned again anyway. (Chances are he'll deserve it)

It will save any of us sticking up for him because we'll just know that there was no ill will meant towards him from ANY moderators... We'd be kind of like "Oh hakan's on his scheduled ban again. No big deal"

Plus it guarentees that Hakan would be punished for every infraction - even the "grey areas". He'd be banned whether he needed it or not (these days it seems he needs it more than not)

It would also negate the need for a perma-ban. So Hakan himself would benefit from this solution.

It's a win, win situation for all involved.

(can you tell I'm bitter about publicly defending a miscreant?)

 

[Alcibiaties of Athenae]

It's OK Red Wolfe, you didn't know his history or motivations.

Posting links to hardcore Porn could cost this site it's exsistance, this guy needs to be removed, permanantly.

 

[BCLG100]

ok im new here and visit here a lot but here goes from wot i have gathered over the time i have been here and reading this thread if sum guy wants to post links to porn sites and spam it then i think that he should be removed permanentely
but one further question AoA dont you have the power to remove him as your a moderator

also i think all the mods should have like a vote or summin to see whether he goes or not

 

[gonzo_for_civ]

Yes, AoA has the power to ban Hakan but this time it was done by one of our wonderful Civ3 Mods, PaleHorse76. Those Civ3 Mods have such a tough job and are the greatest Mods in the world

Permanent Bans are decided by Thunderfall(the Administrator) and are used when the User has shown disregard for the rules or has majorly indangered the sites existence(hardcore porn is against the server agreement like AoA said) If Hakan is allowed back there is nothing to ensure he wont post more hard-core porn and maybe someone reports it to the server next time

But he might not be permanently banned and if not we expect no more foul play

 

[NU_]

I think ThunderFall is the only one that can IP ban, which is the only 'permanent' solution...

 

[damunzy]

Originally posted by Alcibiaties of Athenae
For the record, it was a link to a picture of a man shoving his member in another man's behind.

Sorry, little confusing on that one. The pic he linked to came up to this error:

Forbidden
You don't have permission to access /##########/#.jpg on this server.

. The problem I have is that he put the URL for everyone to follow to instead of embedding the image in the page with the image tags. I followed the link after removing the picture reference and got this warning:

ADULT CONTENT WARNING
The material on this server is adult oriented and sexually explicit and is related to gay pornographic material of an adult nature.
This site provides access to images of nude adults possibly engaging in sexual acts.
Access to this gay pornographic site is made available only to those
who accept the terms of the following agreement:

I then entered the site and found some pics to be of studs in underwear...no problem....then I also found on the same page a few pictures of studs with condoms on their wangs shoving them into other studs' rears....definately against CFC rules.

 

[Ming]

Originally posted by NU_
I think ThunderFall is the only one that can IP ban, which is the only 'permanent' solution...

Even an IP ban can't keep somebody away. If you have a static IP address, and not willing to change it... sure, it will work. But if they are using one of the MANY, MANY, MANY service providers that just give you the next available IP address, yours is different everytime you log on. To use an IP ban against such a person, they would have to BAN all the IP addresses of that service provider. And if it happens to be a large service provider, you could be banning tons of other members as well

 

[damunzy]

Originally posted by Ming
And if it happens to be a large service provider, you could be banning tons of other members as well

That has happened before when an ISP wouldn't take action on one of their users. TF don't play games once he starts going.

 

[Dell19]

Originally posted by PaleHorse76
That has happened before when an ISP wouldn't take action on one of their users. TF don't play games once he starts going.

This could be very interesting if it ever happened...

 

[CurtSibling]

From what I have see, Hakan did have an 'attitude'.
I don't know his history though. Anyone should know what is decent for a site like this.
I am against porn on the web...big time.


I just shows, you can't go wrong when you post a nice image of a battleship or a jet fighter!