[NFP] What is the worst looking leader in your opinion?

[Kupe Navigator]

They exaggerated her masculine features--her portraits look prettier--but she definitely looks recognizable anyway.

note, Kristina's design is based on this portrait:

the artist have exaggerated her eyes- which is why some find civ 6 Kristina to be weird. It was weird, to begin with.

 

[aieeegrunt]

I mean, Gilgamesh and Cleopatra, among others, are also delivering their lines in dead languages (badly, in Gilgamesh's case), but their delivery has feeling. Michelle Yeoh had to learn all of her dialogue for Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon phonetically, but you'd never know it from her rousing performance. So I'm not really prepared to grant him that excuse.

The dialect he is trying to speak makes him sound like an SNL parody. They might as well have had Michael Myers be the VA

note, Kristina's design is based on this portrait:

the artist have exaggerated her eyes- which is why some find civ 6 Kristina to be weird. It was weird, to begin with.

Kristina pretty much sets off all my Stalker Girl red flags and I reflexivly wipe out Sweden before she starts sitting in her car outside my house all night

 

[Finvola]

Kristina reminds me of one of my RL friends. I'm not calling my friend ugly and I don't think she is, by the way. I think that's probably why I don't see Kristina as ugly as people make her out to be. She's certainly goofy and quirky but I wouldn't call her ugly.

Alexander on the other hand--besides the things that people have already mentioned, I think he has a massive head that's too big for his body. Not quite like ET's lollipop head though.

 

[Zaarin]

Kristina reminds me of one of my RL friends. I'm not calling my friend ugly and I don't think she is, by the way.

I had a friend in college who looked uncannily like Anna Popplewell. I had the biggest crush on her (my friend, not Anna Popplewell )...

Alexander on the other hand--besides the things that people have already mentioned, I think he has a massive head that's too big for his body. Not quite like ET's lollipop head though.

True in both cases, but I think Menelik wins in the "head too big for body" category.

 

[Kupe Navigator]

Kristina reminds me of one of my RL friends. I'm not calling my friend ugly and I don't think she is, by the way. I think that's probably why I don't see Kristina as ugly as people make her out to be. She's certainly goofy and quirky but I wouldn't call her ugly.

Alexander on the other hand--besides the things that people have already mentioned, I think he has a massive head that's too big for his body. Not quite like ET's lollipop head though.

She reminds me of my old history lecturer.

 

[BD123]

I actually like Kristina, one of my fav looking leaders.

The ones I really dislike are Kublai, Simon and that guy from Spain. He just looks like my landlord and sometimes I think he'll get on war against me if I don't pay rent on right time......

Philip II of Spain also bugs me. His animations are very cartoony like many of the base game leaders. He also looks nothing like Sofonisaba's portrait of him and that's a great work that's literally in the game lol. Nor does he act like what most chroniclers at the time said he would. The wikipedia uses some Venetian ambasador's words who describes him as courteous and gracious in mannerism as opposed to the "I just called your entourage heretics oopsies" man in game.

I remember way back in the days of initial release someone on here said Philip was speaking with a Mexico-accented Spanish, which is hilarious bc Firaxis in all of their games exclusively uses Spain Spanish for translation when you switch the game over. Even in XCOM all the soldiers that speak Spanish are using like Madrid accents and slang, likewise the announcer and narrator in Civ 5 and 6 is also a Spaniard when the game is set to Spanish. I can't tell for sure if Philip is using Mexican Spanish or not bc Philip rarely pops up as an AI for me, and when he does I skip through his introduction bc his animations annoy me lol.

 

[Zaarin]

Philip II of Spain also bugs me. His animations are very cartoony like many of the base game leaders. He also looks nothing like Sofonisaba's portrait of him and that's a great work that's literally in the game lol. Nor does he act like what most chroniclers at the time said he would. The wikipedia uses some Venetian ambasador's words who describes him as courteous and gracious in mannerism as opposed to the "I just called your entourage heretics oopsies" man in game.

Yeah, his "d'Artagnan played by Antonio Banderas" routine is obnoxious. The man was a scholarly intellectual who reportedly suffered from pretty severe depression, and Civ6 has him frolicking around like some kind of Inquisitorial Musketeer.

I remember way back in the days of initial release someone on here said Philip was speaking with a Mexico-accented Spanish

Disclaimer: I don't speak Spanish. However, Philip has pretty noticeable ceceo so if he's not speaking castellano he's at least affecting it.

 

[BD123]

Disclaimer: I don't speak Spanish. However, Philip has pretty noticeable ceceo so if he's not speaking castellano he's at least affecting it.

I know an ok amount of Spanish and studied in Madrid for a bit, but I'm mostly a reader and writer in Spanish as opposed to a listener and speaker. Philip in game gives me the impression he's doing the Spain accent, and it was only once that I saw someone say he was speaking with a Mexico accent. But I agree that he must be affecting it, his accent isn't as clear-cut to me personally as like the little XCOM guys screaming "thinco por thinco" or the civ announcer saying "thivilithion" but I was always a bad listener anyhow lol

 

[Abaxial]

Pro: He's not anachronistically wearing a kilt and smeared in blue paint (had to save that for Ambiorix, I guess ). Con: He still manages to come across as a massive Scottish stereotype--and his VA sounds dead inside.

I find him so stereotypical as to be almost offensive. I half expect him to launch into a World of Warcraft spiel of "Finest wires in the land!".

 

[Piranga]

Also controversial opinion: I'm fine with how Kublai Khan looks. Don't understand the hate for him.

For me its the texture of his face. Way to smooth, not a single wrinkle. Combined with the grey hair and I'm not sure if he's supposed to be real young, greying prematurely. Or real old with just an amazing skin care routine.

One leader that really gets to me is Shaka. The angle of his side/back muscles is so weird I can't help but to see it right away.

 

[Zaarin]

For me its the texture of his face. Way to smooth, not a single wrinkle. Combined with the grey hair and I'm not sure if he's supposed to be real young, greying prematurely. Or real old with just an amazing skin care routine.

Yeah, this is a common problem between both Kublai and Basil, though in my opinion Basil looks like a young man with an old man's beard glued on his face while Kublai just looks plastic.

One leader that really gets to me is Shaka. The angle of his side/back muscles is so weird I can't help but to see it right away.

Yes, Shaka looks sculpted, and by sculpted I mean literally sculpted of stone. He looks like he could literally cut you with his muscles.

 

[7daysofwar]

One leader that really gets to me is Shaka. The angle of his side/back muscles is so weird I can't help but to see it right away.

I agree with this one, his backmuscle feels so unnatural big and feel wrongly placed >.>, it was always the leader I questioned the most.

 

[JR Magallanes]

hated Shaka

loooved Kupe

 

[Alexander's Hetaroi]

Yes, Shaka looks sculpted, and by sculpted I mean literally sculpted of stone. He looks like he could literally cut you with his muscles.

I fully believe they based his look off of this statue of him in London, which might explain things.

Spoiler :

 

[Zaarin]

I fully believe they based his look off of this statue of him in London, which might explain things.

Spoiler :

Guys, you forgot that statues are made of stone, but humans are made of soft and squishy flesh.

 

[Piranga]

This area is the part that always catches my eye. It looks like some sort of goiter on his back.

The rest of Shaka looks like a statue, but I'm fine with that.

 

[fy00sh]

This area is the part that always catches my eye. It looks like some sort of goiter on his back.

The rest of Shaka looks like a statue, but I'm fine with that.

Yep, that's exactly what i was talking about with the disconcertingly massive lats. Apparently there are some bodybuilders out there who actually have that sort of build but I'm pretty sure from a quick google search that it's widely seen as extremely imbalanced to have lats that wide and also have relatively tame (for bodybuiling standards) muscle sizes everywhere else. And I agree, it just doesn't look right.
It just ends up looking like he's got webbed armpits like a flying squirrel. I really don't like it

 

[Hellenism Salesman]

It just ends up looking like he's got webbed armpits like a flying squirrel. I really don't like it

Alex's armor also gives off the impression he has ungodly disproportionate lats. It's honestly part of the reason I dislike his character model- that and other things just look... off.

 

[suedenim]

Mvemba a Nzinga is the one I hate the most, though he might be in the appropriate "love to hate" realm of Alexander as described in the OP?

His depiction fits the passive-aggressive Kongo attitude of "Please let me learn of your religion" accompanied by getting all pissy if you haven't sent a missionary to him even though you only discovered your religion, like, 5 turns ago.

 

[Alexander's Hetaroi]

Mvemba a Nzinga is the one I hate the most, though he might be in the appropriate "love to hate" realm of Alexander as described in the OP?

His depiction fits the passive-aggressive Kongo attitude of "Please let me learn of your religion" accompanied by getting all pissy if you haven't sent a missionary to him even though you only discovered your religion, like, 5 turns ago.

It's true. It's not my fault that you spawned in the middle of a rainforest so it takes my missionaries forever to get to you.

But since thread is about the physical looks of the leader I don't see anything wrong with him in that regard. He's on the side of looking more realistic. Almost too realistic looking considering he constantly reminds me of Morgan Freeman.