what is your view about iran?

[Huayna Capac357]

How is it childish? There were settlements in Iran in 5000 BC, but no civilizations.

EDIT: Crosspost.

 

[Great Cyrus]

search about shahr-e sookhte and khoozestan.

 

[Huayna Capac357]

That had pots in China 15,000 years ago.

 

[hossam]

National myths are alive and kicking in Iran, I see

I love it when people claim heritage of a completely different culture which was wiped out when the presently dominant culture arrived

youre one to talk, you live in an post communist eastern european dump

 

[aronnax]

youre one to talk, you live in an post communist eastern european dump

Dearest Hossam,
I write to you in regard to the Status of the Czech Republic having seen it for myself just last June. The Czech Republic or at least the City of Prague is an amazingly neat, orderly and surprising quiet city. The transportation is very effective for most generic places and neighbourhoods via their trams and metro systems. The roads are strangely not congested in Nove Mesto. They have rows of delicious restaurants and quaint cafes that remind me of a mini Cafe culture though prices are a little steep in the old town. There are plenty of neat antique stores everywhere (I bought a Soviet 1950s Music Score at one among others) Prague Castle is an spectacular sight and even in the rainy first day, pull off a look so Central European, so Baroque and Gothic, so cultured that I was so stun by the contrasting richness of Gothic Saint Vitus Cathedral and Baroque Summer Palaces that for a moment, I accidently walked into the doorway that led to the President's residence. The Czech people are very helpful, an 80 year old man who's hands vibrated terribly helped take a picture of me and my mother in a secluded park behind the Castle. It was a terrible shot but it was nice. I have only three complaints about Prague.

1) I got fined 700 Koruna because the Metro system is vague because I didn't punch my ticket.
2) The German tourists pushed me as I tried to watch the Marching of the Guards.
3) I can only find one Starbucks in the Hradčany in all of Prague

So your vision of a "post communist eastern european dump" is as rubbish as, well the trash that overflows the streets of Cairo, as full of it as mummy curses and as much hot air of an American Redneck when he sees a gay couple kissing or the hot Saharan Sun.
Nobody (Shakes fingers and hips sassly like Queen Latifah) can diss my Czech Vacation.

 

[Winner]

There isn't really anything good on TV now, so I've ended up watching 300 on TNT for the past few minutes. From what I've seen so far, I find this portrayal of the Persians even more insulting than I had predicted.

Let's ban it together with everything that is not politically correct enough, you know, funny cartoons and other evil things...

 

[Tee Kay]

National myths are alive and kicking in Iran, I see

I love it when people claim heritage of a completely different culture which was wiped out when the presently dominant culture arrived

Yeah, because there's no cultural continuity or influence from ancient Persia in modern Iran.

 

[Winner]

Yeah, because there's no cultural continuity or influence from ancient Persia in modern Iran.

Some, but awfully lot of it was lost during the islamization of Persia. It's similar story as with Egypt and other civilizations swallowed by Islam.

It makes no sense for present day Iranians to claim some sort of continuity with the Persian Empire of the Antiquity. It's as if I as a Czech claimed to be a Celt since Bohemia/Moravia used to belong to the heartland of Celtic culture centuries ago.

3) I can only find one Starbucks in the Hradčany in all of Prague

It's actually the only Starbucks in the whole country.

 

[aronnax]

It's actually the only Starbucks in the whole country.

The forces of capitalism aren't strong enough yet in Czech Republic!

There is like five on a 2 km street in Singapore.

 

[Phlegmak]

The forces of capitalism aren't strong enough yet in Czech Republic!

There is like five on a 2 km street in Singapore.

Manhattan is like that too. It's sad.

 

[Squonk]

youre one to talk, you live in an post communist eastern european dump

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/eco_gdp_percap-economy-gdp-nominal-per-capita

# 37 Slovenia: $18,674.21 per capita 2006 Time series
# 50 Czech Republic: $13,877.02 per capita 2006 Time series
# 54 Estonia: $12,236.60 per capita 2006 Time series
# 57 Hungary: $11,226.70 per capita 2006 Time series
# 58 Slovakia: $10,223.34 per capita 2006 Time series
# 60 Croatia: $9,611.68 per capita 2006 Time series
# 62 Poland: $8,887.73 per capita 2006 Time series
# 64 Latvia: $8,797.00 per capita 2006 Time series
# 65 Lithuania: $8,770.09 per capita 2006 Time series
# 72 Russia: $6,932.33 per capita 2006 Time series
# 80 Romania: $5,645.24 per capita 2006 Time series
# 89 Kazakhstan: $5,045.50 per capita 2006 Time series
# 93 Bulgaria: $4,089.22 per capita 2006 Time series
# 96 Montenegro: $3,872.41 per capita 2006 Time series
# 97 Belarus: $3,802.54 per capita 2006 Time series
# 112 Albania: $2,911.90 per capita 2006 Time series
# 113 Bosnia and Herzegovina: $2,890.07 per capita 2006 Time series
# 121 Azerbaijan: $2,374.40 per capita 2006 Time series
# 124 Ukraine: $2,278.47 per capita 2006 Time series
# 130 Armenia: $2,130.13 per capita 2006 Time series
# 136 Georgia: $1,701.84 per capita 2006 Time series


# 141 Egypt: $1,425.58 per capita 2006 Time series

a dump, you say? Egypt, with all the tourism and financial aid from USA, is poorer than the poorest countries of Eastern Europe... In fact, it is 10x poorer than Czech Republic.

 

[Dachs]

hossam doesn't live in Egypt.

 

[My Pet Hamster]

Soon to be called "Damhlaig Nua" (New Duleek[Duleek is an Irish town, close to Drogheda, another{bigger}Irish town]), but other than that, pretty cool.

 

[choxorn]

Manhattan is like that too. It's sad.

That's cause Starbucks is attempting to take over the world before Walmart does.

 

[Squonk]

hossam doesn't live in Egypt.

but he's a dual citizen or something, isn't he?

 

[Dachs]

but he's a dual citizen or something, isn't he?

Something like that? He still doesn't live in a place that's worse than an Eastern European post communist dump.

 

[Great Cyrus]

hey mongols! this topic is for your view about iran. now and last not other country.
Huayna Capac357, you said china has 15000 years culture? the frist cultural Society was in iran. read a book.

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[Ecofarm]

The agricultural revolution marks the beginning of settled 'civilization'. This occured in the fertile cresent (and perhaps also in China) just after the end of the last ice age (~13000 ya, IIRC). Iraq, not Iran, was the first to use seeds.

Are we going to refer to pastoralism as civilization? Why not hunter-gatherers then? Surely both are 'cultures' and existed long before humans were in Iran.

 

[Great Cyrus]

iraq?
1: iraq(aragh) was for iran in last.
2: khozestan in iran and a part of iraq is that place.
3: shahr-e shookhte(burn city) in iran is the frist cultural city, Scientists said.
dont forget arabs werent in babylon(babel). they attacked our and they lived in our old country.

 

[Ecofarm]

By first 'cultural city' you mean 1st city with an academy or museum??

The first city is in Turkey.