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Texas is big enough that it reaches multiple regions, the Southeast, the Gulf Coast, the Great Plains, the Southwest, and the Rio Grande regions.
Texas, unsurprisingly, overlaps with several biomes and culture regions.I might be biased but I, and a lot of people from Texas, don't include Texas as part of the Southwest at all, and that's coming from someone who has also lived in Arizona. Texas is it's own thing.
Worth noting that the Choctaw were also very interested in creating what you might call a hybrid Native-European culture in which they preserved many of their traditions but also adopted Anglo-American education and technology, and they were actively seeking a closer relationship with the United States. Had Anglo-American been less--Well, let's be blunt about it: had Anglo-Americans been less racist, it's very conceivable that both the Choctaw and the Iroquois could have carved out their own states in the Union--in a way that it's unlikely the Chickasaw, Cherokee, or Creek would have, for instance.From USA Choctaw looks like a great option to cover both the ignored Mississippian cultures and at the same time one of the native nations who was adapting the best to a fast changing world. Something that for me fit better for the general CIV model than use some nomadic introvert culture and force it as an urban-empire for no reason.
Agree. This is why I think they fit the best for CIV model, they were more on the think of "we need to play the same game to thrive" instead of just be "let me alone go away". I understand and respect the real historical peoples that did not wanted to change their traditional culture, but that not make them a logical option for the game when they will be played mostly as what they did not want to be.Worth noting that the Choctaw were also very interested in creating what you might call a hybrid Native-European culture in which they preserved many of their traditions but also adopted Anglo-American education and technology, and they were actively seeking a closer relationship with the United States. Had Anglo-American been less--Well, let's be blunt about it: had Anglo-Americans been less racist, it's very conceivable that both the Choctaw and the Iroquois could have carved out their own states in the Union--in a way that it's unlikely the Chickasaw, Cherokee, or Creek would have, for instance.
We know about Chimu kings like Minchancaman, Ñancempinco, Guacricur and Tacaynamo, also the native name of the cities from 14th to 16th century.The problem with the Moche and Chimu is that we have no existing record other than the archaeological. No leader names, place names, language, written language, first hand accounts or anything but artifacts.
Texas, unsurprisingly, overlaps with several biomes and culture regions.
Applies with equal validity to Florida.Including Hell, according to Phil Sheridan . . .
After he was stationed at Fort Bliss, down by El Paso (where even the lizards carry parasols to avoid sunstroke), in the 1850s Sheridan supposedly said that:
"If he owned both Texas and Hell, he'd rent out Texas and live in Hell."
My father, who was born and raised in East Texas, was in complete agreement with Phil when it came to West Texas . . .
I've never lived in West Texas, but I'm sure it's similar to Arizona, where I've also lived.My father, who was born and raised in East Texas, was in complete agreement with Phil when it came to West Texas . . .
Living in Southeast Texas most of my life it's funny whenever I've visit Orlando/Central Florida, it's surprisingly sometimes even less hot and humid than it is back at my home. Honestly it was the same whenever I went to Honduras about two years ago in the winter. Being in central Honduras up in the mountains it was way more humid back at home when I checked the weather.Applies with equal validity to Florida.
Comanche because they were The great horse nation of North America, far more adept at breeding and keeping horses than any other tribe except the Nez Perce, their only equals at it. They, and their Kiowa neighbors, were also unique in that they were maize farmers along the river bottoms of north and west Texas until they got horses, and then essentially abandoned agriculture and took up a nomadic Bison-hunting existance - Civ might have trouble incorporating that 'reverse progression' but if Civ VII could manage it, it would be a really unique attribute for a Civ.
I have a friend like that--she says South Florida isn't warm enough for her. I like the cold (within moderation), though, and hate the heat so I'll be moving out of Florida at the first opportunity I get. I've always thought the climate of the Faroes, with an average temperature range of 40-60℉, sounds perfect--not that I want to live in a Scandinavian country.Living in Southeast Texas most of my life it's funny whenever I've visit Orlando/Central Florida, it's surprisingly sometimes even less hot and humid than it is back at my home. Honestly it was the same whenever I went to Honduras about two years ago in the winter. Being in central Honduras up in the mountains it was way more humid back at home when I checked the weather.
This is probably also why I never consider Texas as a truly southwestern state, considering I live about 30 miles from the Louisiana border and my area has more in common with the South/Cajun culture of Louisiana than almost any other part of Texas.
I hate the cold weather so I've always been fine with Arizona, Texas, or Florida weather. Even Arkansas and Oklahoma are too far north for me to ever consider living permanently. I've visited family in Missouri during November and yeah I was miserable.
I hate the temperature going below 60, so yeah I'd definitely pass on that.I've always thought the climate of the Faroes, with an average temperature range of 40-60℉, sounds perfect--not that I want to live in a Scandinavian country.
Yes. For my part at least, the discussion is whether to consider Comancheria the Southwest or the Southern Plains; their point of origin was certainly further north.Wait, since when did the Comanche originate in the Southwest?
Most every source I've ever seen place their origin in the northern US rockies (Wyoming-Idaho-Montana area) and their foothills, near the (related) Shoshone, with migrations southward onto the plains in the 1700s after acquiring horses.
Texas might be southwest or not, but Wyoming, Idaho and Montana are very much not so.
I don't think they were properly called the Comanche until they expanded into Texas and New Mexico etc. But yes they were considered a part of the Eastern Shoshone before that living farther north.Wait, since when did the Comanche originate in the Southwest?
Most every source I've ever seen place their origin in the northern US rockies (Wyoming-Idaho-Montana area) and their foothills, near the (related) Shoshone, with migrations southward onto the plains in the 1700s after acquiring horses.
Texas might be southwest or not, but Wyoming, Idaho and Montana are very much not so.
TBH this is one of the reasons I'd prefer the Nez Perce, Arapaho, or even Lakota over the Comanche because, while Civ5's civ was certainly called the Shoshone and had a Shoshone leader...it seemed like a stealth representation of the Comanche, down to having a Comanche UU. (Or at the very least a hybrid Shoshone/Comanche civ. The Pathfinder was no doubt intended to be a nod to Sacagawea, who was Shoshone, and the extra territory could have been a nod to the sprawling Shoshone or to Comancheria. I always thought that was a neat ability, and I'm glad Russia picked it up in Civ6.)I don't think they were properly called the Comanche until they expanded into Texas and New Mexico etc. But yes they were considered a part of the Eastern Shoshone before that living farther north.
I'm sure if they were to get in the game they would start somewhere more south on a TSL map, where their historical homeland, Comancheria, was.
Wait, since when did the Comanche originate in the Southwest?
Most every source I've ever seen place their origin in the northern US rockies (Wyoming-Idaho-Montana area) and their foothills, near the (related) Shoshone, with migrations southward onto the plains in the 1700s after acquiring horses.
Texas might be southwest or not, but Wyoming, Idaho and Montana are very much not so.