What realistic chance would a trained human fighter have against a grown chimpanzee?

and one shot from an adult chimp in most cases will incapacitate a human.
I'm mildly amused by this statement - as if there was a large dataset of chimps punching humans. :lol:
In fact, I very much doubt a chimp even has any idea how to punch (properly). I believe it would rather grapple and bite its opponent.

But to answer the question: if both knew from the start this is a fight to the death, I'd put money on either, if someone offered higher odds than 2 on him.
 
I wasn't thinking "punch" actually. I would guess more of a tackle type of opening to that grapple you mention. I have seen chimps jump, and I know what they weigh. If that body weight hit me with that jump driving it I'm pretty sure I'd fold.
 
I think a trained fighter would have good chances even without a knife. If his punch is strong enough to disorient a chimp (which would depend on fighters weight and training), he is likely to win.
 
This is the greatest question ever.

If the chimp lows what is going down, it wins every time, training or not. Chimps are just so much faster and more powerful than a human that it wouldn't be a contest. Now, a trained fighter an with a knife could sink it into the chimp's ribs or something as the chimp bites his face off, but a draw is the best a human can ask for here.

Now, a human can always just slit a chimp's throat before it knows what is happening. But that isn't really a fight, is it?

There used to be a show on TV called Man vs Beast. It featured contests between humans and animals. Often the animal in question would a chip, and they always had the same problem; the chimp simply didn't give a crap, and did whatever it wanted. A contest in who can climb a tree faster? The chimp casually saunters up while the human climbs as fast as possible. Who can hang on monkey bars longer? The chimp gets bored and starts fooling around up there, doing flips and hanging upside down, while the human stays hanging by his hands. Who can throw a ball the farthest? The chimp eats the ball.
 
No exactly a chimp, but in a human vs orangutan bare-hand coconut-opening contest the human will suffer a total humiliation. Not only because he lacks the needed strength, but also the needed technique and knowledge:


:sad:
 
No exactly a chimp, but in a human vs orangutan bare-hand coconut-opening contest the human will suffer a total humiliation. Not only because he lacks the needed strength, but also the needed technique and knowledge:


:sad:
I love how relaxed the orangutan is. It's just like; "here we go again, another puny human to humiliate. Give me the coconut and stop wasting my time."
 
Orangutan is a professional coconut-breaker, that was unfair contest.
I can beat chimpanzee in chess, any time.
 
But you would lose in a termita fishing contest which is chimpanzee chess, so chimpanchess.

 
Orangutan is a professional coconut-breaker, that was unfair contest.
I can beat chimpanzee in chess, any time.
Chimpanzees have already beaten us at chess. They aren't building habitats for us, and distributing us globally. They don't make films about us conquering the world. They don't team us with a young Clint Eastwood. They have a.ready outmanoeuvred us.
 
I wasn't thinking "punch" actually. I would guess more of a tackle type of opening to that grapple you mention. I have seen chimps jump, and I know what they weigh. If that body weight hit me with that jump driving it I'm pretty sure I'd fold.
Fair enough... but impaling it on a knife as it jumps you sounds feasible, at least on paper.
 
Fair enough... but impaling it on a knife as it jumps you sounds feasible, at least on paper.
A full grown chimp is basically a small bear dude. They have built in knives in their mouths, and they fight by biting each other's faces and hands off. It would take the luckiest knife strike in history to kill a jumping chimp with a single blow, and you're unlikely to get a second attempt.
 
A full grown chimp is basically a small bear dude. They have built in knives in their mouths, and they fight by biting each other's faces and hands off. It would take the luckiest knife strike in history to kill a jumping chimp with a single blow, and you're unlikely to get a second attempt.
Well...
On a cold November day in 1999, Alaskan hunter Gene Moe was nearly killed by a bear. He was 69 years old.
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https://shouldersofgiants.com/2016/07/24/ultimate-bear-story/
 
Pfft, my buddy used to go against grizzly bear with his bare hands only.
Happened only once though...
 
Story kind of proves m point. Gene Moe is awesome, and he got lucky.
He is awesome indeed. But here we had 69-year old guy against 750 lb bear.
A trained fighter in his 20s should have better chances against 120lbs chimp.
As I said, give me better odds than 2.00 on either and I'm betting.
 
Would intelligent tactics (that chimps can't emulate) + good strikes with the knife be enough?
If we're saying the chimp is ready for a fight, you're removing at least some of the intelligent tactics advantage that a human has over an animal (and, indeed, over other humans). Anyway, I think a trained soldier with a knife could absolutely kill a charging chimp, but might not survive himself. I think both of them could easily wind up dead. I don't know if chimps go for killing blows like predators do, or just kind of go crazy and smash. If it's the latter, the soldier might survive, with a broken arm, or something, but alive. Unarmed people have survived surprise chimp attacks, albeit f'd up. A soldier with a knife, ready to go, would presumably fare better.
 
Fair enough... but impaling it on a knife as it jumps you sounds feasible, at least on paper.
"Stick the knife out and it hits it as it jumps" is a whole lot different than the various "slit throat" or stab to the heart things that were said about catching the chimp unawares. The quickness to get the knife in line at all is a big ask, and getting results like a well targeted fatal blow is unlikely.
 
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