What should I do as an adult?

[Zack]

Nah, when your nose hair crosses over the line to being able to feel it on the "outside" of your nose is the day you realise you're just some fully grown hairless gorilla

When you have a lot of hair, you realize you're hairless?

 

[Kennigit]

I believe socrates said that

Him or siddhartha gautama

Basically the same philosophy anyways

 

[GenMarshall]

I turn 18 tomorrow, and am having a very mild, continuous panic attack. But despite coming five years too late for my taste, I honestly can't think of what I should do to exercise my privileges as a real citizen.

Any suggestions?

You are still young. Wait until you turn 25 and still don't know what to do, then you can panic.

 

[Hygro]

Eh, kinda read that way, what with 'uncomfortable' being the only way you qualified how to travel.

reasonable. I wanted to be brief, and I wanted to stress that it doesn't have to feel good all the time to be—that one/he should travel at that age with the complete willingness to find discomfort and seek uncomfortable things.

Or you could think of it as 3 years in which to develop a healthier selection of choices (or at least not as harmful).

Right there with you. Definitely develop some better habits than boozing.
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[Kyriakos]

At some point, people tend to form some (at least relative) stability in their life. 18 is not that point, though.

 

[Quackers]

Can someone explain to me why traveling with little comfort is a good thing? What do you mean by it exactly?

Seems like a load of bollocks to me.

 

[Mechanicalsalvation]

Can someone explain to me why traveling with little comfort is a good thing? What do you mean by it exactly?

Seems like a load of bollocks to me.

Or alternatively you shouldnt travel at all in spite of strong desire to do so and make sure your stay at home is very uncomfortable. Thats the ticket to perfect adulthood guaranteed....

 

[bhsup]

If you really want to see the world, you should join the navy. It's not just a job, it's an adventure.

 

[peter grimes]

Eh, kinda read that way, what with 'uncomfortable' being the only way you qualified how to travel.

reasonable. I wanted to be brief, and I wanted to stress that it doesn't have to feel good all the time to be—that one/he should travel at that age with the complete willingness to find discomfort and seek uncomfortable things.


Right there with you. Definitely develop some better habits than boozing.
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Can someone explain to me why traveling with little comfort is a good thing? What do you mean by it exactly?

Seems like a load of bollocks to me.

I took it to mean get out of your comfort zone. It doesn't mean that all travel everywhere should be like that, but it's important to go to places that will challenge you.

For instance, go to a city where you can't get by in your language(s). And don't stay in a cocoon that caters to people who can't get by in the local language. It will force you to become resourceful in a new way, you'll have the satisfaction of solving problems you didn't foresee, etc.

I'd be very nervous about going to, say, Korea because I don't know the language at all. But if I did go, I'd stay out of the bigger metro areas and I'd eat stuff that I wouldn't normally go near. That sort of uncomfortable.

 

[Mise]

For some strange reason, Quackers has never struck me as someone who's particularly open minded about foreign cultures. It would surprise me if his idea of a perfect holiday was casting himself adrift in a sea of unfamiliar foreign faces.

 

[bhsup]

I cannot speak for Quackers, but I'm not even particularly open minded about my OWN culture. My ideal vacation involves as little human contact as possible and as much nature sight seeing as possible. I see humans everyday, why would I want to see more on vacation?

 

[Mise]

But these are different humans!

 

[bhsup]

Oh, I know. After all, I've been to New England!

And California!

 

[Valka D'Ur]

I cannot speak for Quackers, but I'm not even particularly open minded about my OWN culture. My ideal vacation involves as little human contact as possible and as much nature sight seeing as possible. I see humans everyday, why would I want to see more on vacation?

My grandmother was always annoyed when my vacation pictures contained as few people as possible. She didn't understand that I wanted pictures of the places, not the annoying humans I didn't even know.

 

[warpus]

Can someone explain to me why traveling with little comfort is a good thing? What do you mean by it exactly?

Seems like a load of bollocks to me.

If I'm in some far away place and I want to get to a city a couple hours away, flying is always so boring.. Taking a bus I always have interesting run ins with people, interesting experiences, it's far more likely I'll meet interesting people, and so on.

Likewise, staying at a fancy hotel feels a bit sterile. You're insulated from everything! Getting right in the thick of it will give you far more memorable experiences.

So it's not really that you should be seeking uncomfortable experiences. It's more about trying to seek out experiences that will be more memorable.. and for whatever reason buses, hostels, and other relatively cheap "alternatives" to mainstream vacationing outlets are amazing catalysts for that sort of thing.. while things you usually pay a lot of money for (relatively speaking) end up being a bit sterile and boring. Your bed might be super comfortable, but your hotel room is just going to be like any other hotel room no matter where you are on the planet. That's what I mean by sterile. You might as well stay in your home town and stay at a hotel there - you'll have the exact same experience. Staying at a hostel you'll meet people, get dragged out to a cock fight, hi5 an astronaut, and it's just far easier to chat people up.

I think it's mainly that people who are looking for taht "experience" are travelling on the cheap. They are there not to get pampered, but rather to see interesting things, have new experiences, and to get a bit out of their comfort zone. So if you follow in their footsteps, you are more likely to run into them, and have fun with them.

Or you could always pay more, stay at a fancy hotel, only book organized tours, and so on. A completely different type of experience, no matter where you go.

I cannot speak for Quackers, but I'm not even particularly open minded about my OWN culture. My ideal vacation involves as little human contact as possible and as much nature sight seeing as possible. I see humans everyday, why would I want to see more on vacation?

I've been travelling the world meeting people from here and there. Poor people, rich people, men, women, workers, leaders, homeless bums, youngins, old ladies..

You have no idea what sort of variance there exists in humanity until you get out there and start mingling! It's pretty crazy how much variety there is out there, how many modes of thinking, how many cultural norms, and so on.

Personally at first I didn't really see the big deal, but in the end I've walked away as a much richer person because of it. It's taught me things I wouldn't have been able to learn otherwise.. about people out there and about myself.

I'm an introvert, I enjoy solitude. But when I travel I make a point to throw myself outside my comfort zone. A part of that is meeting new people. I am generally against that sort of thing due to my introver tendencies, but the payoff is so huge that I just force myself to do it.

 

[Quackers]

I took it to mean get out of your comfort zone. It doesn't mean that all travel everywhere should be like that, but it's important to go to places that will challenge you.

For instance, go to a city where you can't get by in your language(s). And don't stay in a cocoon that caters to people who can't get by in the local language. It will force you to become resourceful in a new way, you'll have the satisfaction of solving problems you didn't foresee, etc.

I'd be very nervous about going to, say, Korea because I don't know the language at all. But if I did go, I'd stay out of the bigger metro areas and I'd eat stuff that I wouldn't normally go near. That sort of uncomfortable.

That's your interpretation. I want to hear it from the horses' mouth (Hygro).

I'm sure Mouthwash is going to Israel, to fight in the army and then onto college. He is going to be miles outside his comfort zone.

 

[Quackers]

If I'm in some far away place and I want to get to a city a couple hours away, flying is always so boring.. Taking a bus I always have interesting run ins with people, interesting experiences, it's far more likely I'll meet interesting people, and so on.

Likewise, staying at a fancy hotel feels a bit sterile. You're insulated from everything! Getting right in the thick of it will give you far more memorable experiences.

So it's not really that you should be seeking uncomfortable experiences. It's more about trying to seek out experiences that will be more memorable.. and for whatever reason buses, hostels, and other relatively cheap "alternatives" to mainstream vacationing outlets are amazing catalysts for that sort of thing.. while things you usually pay a lot of money for (relatively speaking) end up being a bit sterile and boring. Your bed might be super comfortable, but your hotel room is just going to be like any other hotel room no matter where you are on the planet. That's what I mean by sterile. You might as well stay in your home town and stay at a hotel there - you'll have the exact same experience. Staying at a hostel you'll meet people, get dragged out to a cock fight, hi5 an astronaut, and it's just far easier to chat people up.

I think it's mainly that people who are looking for taht "experience" are travelling on the cheap. They are there not to get pampered, but rather to see interesting things, have new experiences, and to get a bit out of their comfort zone. So if you follow in their footsteps, you are more likely to run into them, and have fun with them.

Or you could always pay more, stay at a fancy hotel, only book organized tours, and so on. A completely different type of experience, no matter where you go.

I know exactly what you mean. I've done both.

My interpretation of Hygro's comments is that you have to deliberately put yourself into material discomfort to get something out of it. I want to see what he means by it all exactly. At the moment it seems to be like "yeah i slept on a hard wooden floor in a dirty hostel, what a guy i am! lol".

 

[Borachio]

Perhaps he just means you should get out of your "comfort zone"? Off the sun lounger on the beach, and into the hills. Or something.

 

[Valka D'Ur]

If I'm in some far away place and I want to get to a city a couple hours away, flying is always so boring.. Taking a bus I always have interesting run ins with people, interesting experiences, it's far more likely I'll meet interesting people, and so on.

...

You have no idea what sort of variance there exists in humanity until you get out there and start mingling! It's pretty crazy how much variety there is out there, how many modes of thinking, how many cultural norms, and so on.

Personally at first I didn't really see the big deal, but in the end I've walked away as a much richer person because of it. It's taught me things I wouldn't have been able to learn otherwise.. about people out there and about myself.

I'm an introvert, I enjoy solitude. But when I travel I make a point to throw myself outside my comfort zone. A part of that is meeting new people. I am generally against that sort of thing due to my introver tendencies, but the payoff is so huge that I just force myself to do it.

Did you know that The Amazing Race Canada is recruiting now for their next season?

 

[Mise]

I know exactly what you mean. I've done both.

My interpretation of Hygro's comments is that you have to deliberately put yourself into material discomfort to get something out of it. I want to see what he means by it all exactly. At the moment it seems to be like "yeah i slept on a hard wooden floor in a dirty hostel, what a guy i am! lol".

If you know exactly what he means then why are you questioning what Hygro said? It seems like you're deliberately seeking out a discomfiting interpretation of Hygro's post in order to make a point about how much you hate hipsters. We know, we all hate hipsters, but everyone else seems to have interpreted it in a much more benign and uncontroversial way than you have. Can't you just choose to interpret it in a way that makes perfect sense, rather than in a way that makes no sense at all?