What you are is, What your Job is.

[alphanav1]

After reading the “Would You Date A Stripper?” thread, I realized what your job is what you become.

If you don’t believe me think about it. A lawyer is a lying scum bag, a politician a lying piece of s***, a garbage man is dirty and unintelligent, a football payer is a big dumb bruit, a computer scientist a geek, accountants are boring, and oh yes a striper is a whore.


Definition of a Whore for you:
1 : a woman who engages in sexual acts for money : PROSTITUTE;
also : a promiscuous or immoral woman
2 : a male who engages in sexual acts for money
3 : a venal or unscrupulous person

What do you know all of those came up in the “Would You Date A Stripper?” thread. Expect for the male one, gee I wonder why? (Besides the lack of women on this board)

Now this is not as straight forward as this applies. It is also related to the concept of stratification.

Stratification is a simple concept really basically it goes like this: system that ranks categories of people and reflects/justifies/influences distribution of resources based upon group membership.

A resource is not as straight forward as you might think it is: wealth, education, health care, safety, personal freedom, opportunities, access to power, etc are all examples.

As you can see the level at which societies values your job, the better off you will be. It also allows the generalizations above to be made. Another consequence of this is that the lower you are on stratification ladder the worst society and people can treat you. Kind of like having two people call you trash because of your occupation.

Now, this explains why you are licklier to date an accountant over a striper, because of the stratification level of the accountant is higher than a striper.

I suggest everyone take an intro to sociology class, you will learn a lot more about this. Also a philosophy ethics class might be nice also.

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[Iggy]

Just curious, what job are you aiming to have?

 

[Immortal]

Read his profile:

Occupation:
Calc II, god I hate it

This implies engineering or math major.

I guess this means I have a lifetime of crusty "You don't understand MY generation" stereotyping to look forward to.

 

[ComradeDavo]

I would like to think I was not like what my job is. I stack shelfs at boots. The bath section is my empire. Hail me, BATH MAN!

Now you think my job might be quite lowly. But if I didn't do it, then all you people wouldn't be able to have baths or showers! And society would break down. So I guess that makes me the most important person in the country, just about.

Um....in conclusion I reject the idea that 'your job is waht you become'. This might apply to some people, but not everyone.

As you can see the level at which societies values your job, the better off you will be.

Better off financially maybe, but better off socially I doubt it. I'm sure some people do very valued jobs yet have miserable lifes, because of personal problems.

Their is more to life than work.

Or maybe by the time i'm 30 all my sense of self will have eroded and I will really be 'bath man'.....

As you can probably tell, I had a very broing tiring day at work today, just like I do every day

 

[~Corsair#01~]

I intend to be a politician- true to my inner qualities.

 

[Ancient Grudge]

Ohh shelf stacking in Homebase eh!
Think about it without me there would be no D.I.Y products.
Imagne a world without D.I.Y, none of those crappy programs.....dear god kill me now, prevent this obsession with D.I.Y!

 

[Fetus4188]

Yes! I get to be the nerdy genius rocket scientist when I get out of college!

 

[hbdragon88]

I'm hoping to become a writer. Already I've been keeping a pencil and paepr on me whenever I go out to dinner if I get inspiration, and have at least three to four short stories going. I'm usually bringing and reading books to class and reading whenever I can, although that might be due to my paranoia, insecurity, and antisocialibility.

 

[alphanav1]

I fear that some people might misunderstand me, so a calefaction is in order. First off I am not trying to bash anyone with my examples above, I apologies if you thought I was bashing your chosen profession. The examples I gave above are stereotypes that society created, and some people listen to. So, like I said I am not bashing anyone, but pointing out stereotypes.

I would like to think I was not like what my job is. I stack shelfs at boots. The bath section is my empire. Hail me, BATH MAN!

Now you think my job might be quite lowly. But if I didn't do it, then all you people wouldn't be able to have baths or showers! And society would break down. So I guess that makes me the most important person in the country, just about.

Um....in conclusion I reject the idea that 'your job is waht you become'. This might apply to some people, but not everyone.


Better off financially maybe, but better off socially I doubt it. I'm sure some people do very valued jobs yet have miserable lifes, because of personal problems.

Their is more to life than work.

Or maybe by the time i'm 30 all my sense of self will have eroded and I will really be 'bath man'.....

As you can probably tell, I had a very broing tiring day at work today, just like I do every day

I am not trying to demean you when I say this; I simply want to make people aware of it, so that the Stratification levels can be a bit fairer.

What is boots by the way, some store in England? I thought you were talking about shoes at first silly me.

The thing is that being better off finically is not the only thing associated with a higher level on the Stratification ladder. It is one of the possibilities yes, but not the only one. You said you stack shelves at boots. Now I am assuming forgive me if I get this wrong that you get few benefits if any. If society valued your job you would get healthcare coverage and paid vacations. Do you get those? Another thing, people who stack the shelves tend not to have very much decision making ability, they can’t tell other people what to do, and they don’t help decided making store policy. Being better off finically affects many aspects of your life, and your children lives. The most obvious is in the matter of safety, those with more money tend to live in better neighborhoods, and they can have a fence around their lard, and a great security system not just a basic one. The next thing is education; public schools are paid for with property taxes. The lower class aka working class public schools are not as well funded because the property value is lower and thus lower taxes. Another thing is higher education; those with more money can afford to go into the better schools. Can most Americans afford to send their kids to Vanderbilt where tuition is about 35k – 40k a year? I don’t think so.

The next thing is personal interaction, with other people. Yet me give you a hypothetical example. A man named Bob is outside, talking about wanting to do a little day trading. The garbage man happens to over hear this, and offers his advice since he has been doing ok at it for a few months now. Bob doesn’t know this, but thanks him for his advice. Later that day Bob’s co-worker over hears him talking about day trading and offers is advice. This advice however conflicts with the garbage man’s advice, and Bob doesn’t know his co-worker very well. Later that day Bob is sitting at home, and follows his co-workers advice. Why does he follow is co-workers advice, one reason is that he trust his advice more, simply because of the stereotype associated with garbage men. Bob, believes that if the garbage man was so intelligent that he can be good at day trading there is no reason why he should be a garbage man.

The thing is in our society we believe that people who are in jobs that can be performed by someone in high school, or a high school drop out, there is something wrong with them. This is because of the negative stereotypes associated with many professions. We don’t value the janitors work as much as the engineers work, and thus provided the janitor with fewer resources.

How do we regard a 35 year old burger flipper at McDonalds, and how do we regard a 35 year old data imputer at some company? What are the different forms of compensation for the work done, and I don’t simply mean pay wise. Who has benefits, who doesn’t, who gets paid vacations, who has more freewill at the job? All of these are related to the negative stereotypes we have about a particular job.

One last question for you all. Whose opinion is given more weight a stripers, or a Bank Mangers, all you know about them is their job?

As for what job I want to do, I just don’t know right now. I am keeping my options open at the moment.

 

[Arminius]

May I ask what my inner qualities must be considering I want to become a soldier?

Let me tell you a few things beyond just wanting to be a soldier, though.

1. I will be an officer in the US Army; working either in armor (tanks) or infantry.
2. I never want to kill anyone, but I will if I must.

 

[ComradeDavo]

What is boots by the way, some store in England?

Yeh a store.

If society valued your job you would get healthcare coverage and paid vacations. Do you get those?

Errr I have paid vacations.

Another thing, people who stack the shelves tend not to have very much decision making ability, they can’t tell other people what to do

Thats not true. Today i bossed a new person around. I couldn't be bothered to find the product myself....so I sent new person to find it. Anyway what I mean is that I can make desions when need be, and so do most of the rest of the operations team.