Which continent are you from and who do you support: Israel or Palestine

What side are you on?

  • North American: side with Israel

    Votes: 51 32.1%
  • North American: side with Palestine

    Votes: 12 7.5%
  • South American: side with Israel

    Votes: 2 1.3%
  • South American: side with Palestine

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • European: side with Israel

    Votes: 16 10.1%
  • European: side with Palestine

    Votes: 27 17.0%
  • Asian: side with Israel

    Votes: 2 1.3%
  • Asian: side with Palestine

    Votes: 2 1.3%
  • Indian: side with Israel

    Votes: 1 0.6%
  • Indian: side with Palestine

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Australian: side with Israel

    Votes: 2 1.3%
  • Australian: side with Palestine

    Votes: 4 2.5%
  • Middle Eastern: side with Israel

    Votes: 2 1.3%
  • Middle Eastern: side with palestine

    Votes: 2 1.3%
  • African: side with Israel

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • African: side with Palestine

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Radioactive space monkeys have stolen my heart, I cannot vote.

    Votes: 36 22.6%

  • Total voters
    159
  • Poll closed .
Im against both sides.
 
Yes it's a Bloody match indeed, with that hitler quote you got there I am suprised you are conse

Were we debating my signature or the issue at hand? My signature has nothing to do with my actual views and that is a pathethic debating tactic. Also do you have a problem with the quote itself or the person who said it? I think its the latter. Martin Luther King Jr. said somehting similar I doubt you would have complained about that.
 
I am from Europe, and I don't support any of the sides, but I don't think Israel deserves to occupy lands in Palestina, Lebanon, or any other country, so I understand the desperate actions of those. Lebanon was a flourishing country, until some refugees established there. Now it is a ruin! It is not because of any Arab that the Israelians came there, and they should fight to defend. I find Israel abbusive, and taking disproportined measures against what the other side does. I do not support terrorism, but I support Israel much less. If I could choose, I would retire all the Israeli troops from occupied lands (well it's hard to definde "occupied" since every part of Israel has been occupied by them at a time in the XXth century), and I would take actions against the terrorists from the surroundings. But if I were to choose which of these sides to win this war, I would go against Israel, but I don't see how this is possible considering how powerful Israel is.
 
silver 2039 said:
Were we debating my signature or the issue at hand? My signature has nothing to do with my actual views and that is a pathethic debating tactic. Also do you have a problem with the quote itself or the person who said it? I think its the latter. Martin Luther King Jr. said somehting similar I doubt you would have complained about that.
While I do have a problem wth hitler (go figure) either you like hitler (as a french men I find that unlikely) or you relate to the quote which makes your thought of peace :mischief: :mischief: :mischief:

Hitler was a great speaker and so is saddam,both better than bush I'd even say. It doesn't impress me a bit when people go oh look at this sharp hitler quote. Having rioted agianst ******* skinhead nazis (from another town no less) trying to march in my town with police protection, I'll say yes any sort of hitler admiration incites violent anger in me. While I understand there is alot of racisim in europe (especially in france and spain). ...You know what I'll just end it with enjoy your race riots and I do have a problem with both the quotes content in relation to your comment and the persone who made it.
P.S. MLK would never say something like that.
 
silver 2039 said:
What is this a bloody football macth?

I side with neither. Both sides are equally at fault and there will never be peace as long as this sort of thing continues.
I agree with what you've said.

Peace will never exist in the area, unless the UN or the SC send troops to stabilize, control and secure tha area OR unless Israel is disbanded and renamed as Israel-Palestine, one country.
Now, one may ask: "is your last sentence even possible"? I reply: "can fish swim"?

Why I'm saying all this? No matter what you believe who's wrong or not(which both are with their murders -- my opinion, anyway), it's totally unacceptable to have a whole region(many countries and many millions or people) in a constant war threat, ALL THE COUNTRIES ON THE WORLD to pay a heavy price on oil because Israel and Palestine cannot make up and nobody do nothing at all!!! UNACCEPTABLE!
Solution?
1. Bring in UN troops to control the area with the good way or the hard way, I don't care(since the two sides are totally handicapped to find a solution)
2. Disband the state of Israel(with the ease it was originally made), and in it's place form the Israel-Palestine country.
If the two sides don't wish to live together in a single state, then divide it in according to the original UN plans maybe, but in any case have UN troops to control the area for as many years as it takes.
 
From USA, support Israel.
 
sysyphus said:
North American - side with innocent civilians.
Sysphus is always right! (well, almost, let's not give him a big head)

I can't side with one or the other, and those who do are playing a cute little fantasy game about international politics like we have in the sports forum about football or hockey. It's all cute, but it's quite sad. I fail to see how you can generalize the whole situation and actually take side in this bloody mess.
 
1. Bring in UN troops to control the area with the good way or the hard way, I don't care(since the two sides are totally handicapped to find a solution)

Next to impossible, IMHO. Any resolution on this will get vetoed

2. Disband the state of Israel(with the ease it was originally made), and in it's place form the Israel-Palestine country.
If the two sides don't wish to live together in a single state, then divide it in according to the original UN plans maybe, but in any case have UN troops to control the area for as many years as it takes.

IIRC, the first plan was to have Jerusalem under the UN. Since Israel want to make a capital here, they would against this wholly. Another UN solution that is next to impossible looking from current situation.

As for me, from neutral to palestinians side. So, am I terrorist or condoning terrorism?
 
How could anyone support one side..... Both have commited attrocities.
I side with the uninvolved population from both sides.
 
FeelGood said:
Next to impossible, IMHO. Any resolution on this will get vetoed
Nothing is impossible: as simple as it was to come to Yugoslavia (as well as other places around the world), the same applies here, UNLESS you're happy with all the killings that take place.
War crimes are being commited by both sides here and it's DAMN OBVIOUS for anyone having eyes on his skull. It's the same laws violated that, because of them, Milosevic was taken to a trial, as well as some of his generals.
It's the same crimes the allies did to Dresden and it's the same crimes the nazis made at my country when the resistance killed it's soldiers and they killed whole civilian villages in revenge.
It's ALSO the same laws that would convict the action of throwing missiles against Israel and killing innocent civilians, and it's the same laws that could condem the action of throwing missiles(Weapons of Mass Destruction) inside Iraqi markets and neighbourhoods during the last war(I said "could", because those who that use the same laws as an excuse to take action - when they think they're mistreated - it's the same that have NOT signed to promote international justice and freedom, by not signing the international war crime treaties, but, you know what? NO, I don't think I'm that bad of a person because I'm saying things that hurt).

Before anyone thinks I'm trolling here because I'M MENTIONING UGLY THINGS THAT IS A TABOO TO SPEAK FOR THEM, just look at what bases the examples I mentioned were lead to trial(s). No, double speak is not applied here: either you walk the walk, or better don't speak at all.

Still think that the UN won't have any success? Move NATO in: what the hell, only when OIL is in the middle does it do something, but when it's about human lives behaves like a junkie pimp?
FeelGood said:
IIRC, the first plan was to have Jerusalem under the UN. Since Israel want to make a capital here, they would against this wholly. Another UN solution that is next to impossible looking from current situation.
Let NATO intervene, the good way or the hard way, period. Warn them like 1 month before, like NATO did for other situations at the past, and move in, simple as that.
It's CLEAR TO ANYONE that no matter how fair was for the Jews to have a home at the area they always lived in, that plan has miserably failed, leading to attrocities by each side. That cannot go on forever, and you KNOW WHAT? The UN is EQUALLY responsible for the crimes commited there because it was the organization that created the new state, so, it has the responsibility to bring an order to the chaos, ONE WAY OR ANOTHER(I may sound hard to Israel, which I als agree it should have a country, but,... enough is enough and those civilians getting killed by both sides are the real victims).
FeelGood said:
As for me, from neutral to palestinians side. So, am I terrorist or condoning terrorism?
I don't know, you tell me: you feel like a terrorist because you support them? If you didn't support them, would you feel like a terrorist? It's easy to say all the time the word "terrorist" for those we find convinient to characterize as such.
Isn't any possibility AT ALL, that an elected goverment, from any country in the world, can commit terrorist acts or attrocities?

How one would characetrize the suicide missions or sniping kids and bulldozing houses and people? How one would describe massive missile launching against Israel aiming civilians and the retaliation against buidlings containing civilian population at Lebanon or targetting buldings supplying electricity and cleaning the water system(crucial to avoid epidemies)?
You know what? Let the the War Crimes' Court decide who's the terorrist and who isn't here, either as goverments or as individuals from both sides: ISN'T WHAT I PROPOSE FAIR ENOUGH? I'm curious why would anyone object to my proposal.
 
Nobody said:
NOT EVERYONE LIVES ON A CONTIENT!
Pah, nobody lives in those disease-infested cesspools of filfth Pacific isle.
Even if they did nobody would have a computer, silly.


That said, I really don't take sides on the issue. Taking sides generally just prolongs the conflict.
 
Perfection said:
Pah, nobody lives in those disease-infested cesspools of filfth Pacific isle.
Even if they did nobody would have a computer, silly.
Oh Yeah‽‽‽‽‽‽‽‽

Perfection you are now cursed by the Evil Tiki
THE SAME ONE THAT TURN GIANT RADIO ACTIVE MONKEY GIANT AND RADIO ACTIVE
 
While I do have a problem wth hitler (go figure) either you like hitler (as a french men I find that unlikely) or you relate to the quote which makes your thought of peace

I'm not French. I do like Hitler as a historical figure. As for the quote, I like it according to how I intrepret it. All life is struggle, and if your are not willing to struggle in life you don't deserve to live. Yes I do relate to the quote I can't stand the people born with a silver spoon in their mouth and have everything handed to them on a silver platter without every moving their lazy ass. People like Paris Hilton... I'm not sure how you are intrepreating the quote but thats not my problem.

Hitler was a great speaker and so is saddam,both better than bush I'd even say. It doesn't impress me a bit when people go oh look at this sharp hitler quote. Having rioted agianst ******* skinhead nazis (from another town no less) trying to march in my town with police protection, I'll say yes any sort of hitler admiration incites violent anger in me. While I understand there is alot of racisim in europe (especially in france and spain). ...You know what I'll just end it with enjoy your race riots and I do have a problem with both the quotes content in relation to your comment and the persone who made it.
P.S. MLK would never say something like that.

Yes Hitler was a great speaker with a demoagougic persoanlity. I'm not sure about Saddam never read or heard any speeches. I'm not sure what your point is though. As for your beef with my quote. Too bad. Deal with it I like the quote its very meingful to me. And once again I'm not French or European.

At any rate this is very much off topic from the thread.
 
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