Which Great Works do you want to see?

[cuso210]

The thing is, in case of native americans, we could use works by that civilization or modern countries that represent them. Aztecs could have mexican literature; Inca, peruvian and Maya, Guatemala. It would give us more options, but I don't know if that's how it's going to work anyway.

 

[mposyncckh]

Austria- "Metamorphosis" by Franz Kafka
Netherlands- Perhaps "The Diary of Anne Frank" by Anne Frank

 

[blackcatatonic]

You've forgotten Salingers The Catcher in the Rye!(For the U.S.)

Didn't forget, left out deliberately as I was trying to limit it to one or two per Civ.

I expect that it will make it into the actual expansion though, being as it is one of the most celebrated American novels of all time. The expansion's list of Great Works is going to be far more Western-centric than the list we've been coming up with here.

 

[blackcatatonic]

Austria- "Metamorphosis" by Franz Kafka
Netherlands- Perhaps "The Diary of Anne Frank" by Anne Frank

Hmm... I thought about The Diary of a Young Girl but wondered if it's not 'great' so much as famous. Any Dutch literary buffs on the forum?

At least artworks are easier - we already know Brueghel is in (for the sake of argument I'm lumping together Flemish and Dutch) and Vermeer should be in too.

 

[orikos]

Sunflowers and Stary Night-Van Gogh

 

[Biologist]

At least artworks are easier - we already know Brueghel is in (for the sake of argument I'm lumping together Flemish and Dutch) and Vermeer should be in too.

Isn't Rembrandt an obvious choice for a Dutch master? I'd be surprised if "The Night Watch" or a similar work wasn't included.

 

[Gucumatz]

Spoiler :

(For Great Literature)

America: Huckleberry Finn, To Kill a Mockingbird
Arabia: One Thousand and One Nights
Assyria: Tukulti-Ninurta Epic, The Epic of Gilgamesh
Austria:
Babylon: Enûma Eliš, The Epic of Gilgamesh
Brazil: Dom Casmurro, Memórias Póstumas de Brás Cubas
Byzantium: Digenes Akritas
Carthage: Hannibal's Dream, Periplus of Hanno
China: Romance of the Three Kingdoms, Journey to the West
Denmark: Poetic Edda (since we can assume CiV Denmark incorporates Iceland), The Little Mermaid
Egypt: The Story of Sinuhe
England: Beowulf, Hamlet (Brave New World )
Ethiopia: Kebra Nagast
France: Le Roman de la Rose, Les Misérables
Germany: Grimm's Fairy Tales
Greece: The Iliad, Works and Days
India: Ramayana, Mahabharata
Japan: The Tale of Genji
Korea: Samguk Yusa
Mongolia: The Secret History of the Mongols
Persia: Shahnameh
Poland: Pan Tadeusz
Polynesia:
Rome: The Consolation of Philosophy, The Aeneid
Russia: War and Peace
Siam: Phra Aphai Mani, Ramakien
Songhai:
Spain: Don Quixote de La Mancha
Sweden: The Millennium Series
The Aztecs: Ma zan moquetzacan (by Nezahualcoyotl), Crónica Mexicayotl (?)
The Celts: Mabinogion, The Brus
The Huns:
The Inca: Tarmap Pacha Huaray
The Iroquois: Gayanashagowa
The Maya: Popol Vuh, Hombres de Maize
The Netherlands:
The Ottomans: Book of Dede Korkut

Here is the list once again, feel free everyone and anyone to add more to it. I have added two pieces for Carthage

 

[sukritact]

3 more! The Dutch, the Polynesians and the Huns (I have a feeling they have no literature to speak of however...).

Spoiler :

(For Great Literature)

America: Huckleberry Finn, To Kill a Mockingbird
Arabia: One Thousand and One Nights
Assyria: Tukulti-Ninurta Epic, The Epic of Gilgamesh
Austria: The Metamorphosis
Babylon: Enûma Eliš, The Epic of Gilgamesh
Brazil: Dom Casmurro, Memórias Póstumas de Brás Cubas
Byzantium: Digenes Akritas
Carthage: Hannibal's Dream, Periplus of Hanno
China: Romance of the Three Kingdoms, Journey to the West
Denmark: Poetic Edda (since we can assume CiV Denmark incorporates Iceland), The Little Mermaid
Egypt: The Story of Sinuhe
England: Beowulf, Hamlet (Brave New World )
Ethiopia: Kebra Nagast
France: Le Roman de la Rose, Les Misérables
Germany: Grimm's Fairy Tales
Greece: The Iliad, Works and Days
India: Ramayana, Mahabharata
Japan: The Tale of Genji
Korea: Samguk Yusa
Mongolia: The Secret History of the Mongols
Persia: Shahnameh
Poland: Pan Tadeusz
Polynesia:
Rome: The Consolation of Philosophy, The Aeneid
Russia: War and Peace
Siam: Phra Aphai Mani, Ramakien
Songhai: Tarikh al-Sudan
Spain: Don Quixote de La Mancha
Sweden: The Millennium Series
The Aztecs: Ma zan moquetzacan (by Nezahualcoyotl), Crónica Mexicayotl (?)
The Celts: Mabinogion, The Brus
The Huns:
The Inca: Tarmap Pacha Huaray
The Iroquois: Gayanashagowa
The Maya: Popol Vuh, Hombres de Maize
The Netherlands:
The Ottomans: Book of Dede Korkut

 

[Gucumatz]

Spoiler :

(For Great Literature)

America: Huckleberry Finn, To Kill a Mockingbird
Arabia: One Thousand and One Nights
Assyria: Tukulti-Ninurta Epic, The Epic of Gilgamesh
Austria: The Metamorphosis
Babylon: Enûma Eliš, The Epic of Gilgamesh
Brazil: Dom Casmurro, Memórias Póstumas de Brás Cubas
Byzantium: Digenes Akritas
Carthage: Hannibal's Dream, Periplus of Hanno
China: Romance of the Three Kingdoms, Journey to the West
Denmark: Poetic Edda (since we can assume CiV Denmark incorporates Iceland), The Little Mermaid
Egypt: The Story of Sinuhe
England: Beowulf, Hamlet (Brave New World )
Ethiopia: Kebra Nagast
France: Le Roman de la Rose, Les Misérables
Germany: Grimm's Fairy Tales
Greece: The Iliad, Works and Days
India: Ramayana, Mahabharata
Japan: The Tale of Genji
Korea: Samguk Yusa
Mongolia: The Secret History of the Mongols
Persia: Shahnameh
Poland: Pan Tadeusz
Polynesia: Kamapua'a
Rome: The Consolation of Philosophy, The Aeneid
Russia: War and Peace
Siam: Phra Aphai Mani, Ramakien
Songhai: Tarikh al-Sudan
Spain: Don Quixote de La Mancha
Sweden: The Millennium Series
The Aztecs: Ma zan moquetzacan (by Nezahualcoyotl), Crónica Mexicayotl (?)
The Celts: Mabinogion, The Brus
The Huns:
The Inca: Tarmap Pacha Huaray
The Iroquois: Gayanashagowa
The Maya: The Popol Vuh, Hombres de Maize
The Netherlands:
The Ottomans: Book of Dede Korkut

Added one for Polynesia

 

[blackcatatonic]

We could have something by Holbein for the Dutch/Flemish, too.

Monet's 'Water Lilies' is the other obvious French choice for paintings.

I'm assuming though that sculptors count as artists, in which case we could expect:
- Michelangelo's David
- something by Rodin
- something by Henry Moore

 

[Nirosi]

Erasmus of Rotterdam - The Praise of the Folly
And I think France should have Gargantua and Pantagruel too.

 

[blackcatatonic]

Erasmus of Rotterdam - The Praise of the Folly

Of course only the most famous and influential Dutch writer of all time!

 

[sukritact]

Right, I've added Praise of the Folly, so that leaves the Huns. (I don't think they have any Great Literature to offer). Someone send this to Firaxis!

Spoiler :

America: Huckleberry Finn, To Kill a Mockingbird
Arabia: One Thousand and One Nights
Assyria: Tukulti-Ninurta Epic, The Epic of Gilgamesh
Austria: The Metamorphosis
Babylon: Enûma Eliš, The Epic of Gilgamesh
Brazil: Dom Casmurro, Memórias Póstumas de Brás Cubas
Byzantium: Digenes Akritas
Carthage: Hannibal's Dream, Periplus of Hanno
China: Romance of the Three Kingdoms, Journey to the West
Denmark: Poetic Edda (since we can assume CiV Denmark incorporates Iceland), The Little Mermaid
Egypt: The Story of Sinuhe
England: Beowulf, Hamlet (Brave New World )
Ethiopia: Kebra Nagast
France: Le Roman de la Rose, Les Misérables
Germany: Grimm's Fairy Tales, Goethe's Faust
Greece: The Iliad, Works and Days
India: Ramayana, Mahabharata
Japan: The Tale of Genji
Korea: Samguk Yusa
Mongolia: The Secret History of the Mongols
Persia: Shahnameh
Poland: Pan Tadeusz
Polynesia: Kamapua'a
Rome: The Consolation of Philosophy, The Aeneid
Russia: War and Peace
Siam: Phra Aphai Mani, Ramakien
Songhai: Tarikh al-Sudan
Spain: Don Quixote de La Mancha
Sweden: The Millennium Series
The Aztecs: Ma zan moquetzacan (by Nezahualcoyotl), Crónica Mexicayotl (?)
The Celts: Mabinogion, The Brus
The Huns:
The Inca: Tarmap Pacha Huaray
The Iroquois: Gayanashagowa
The Maya: The Popol Vuh, Hombres de Maize
The Netherlands: The Praise of the Folly
The Ottomans: Book of Dede Korkut

 

[Eagle Pursuit]

There's only 3 Great Works I want to see.

The Iliad - Homer
The Four Seasons - Vivaldi
Carmen - Bizet

Beyond that, I'll be learning about some Great Works that I'm sure I've never heard of.

 

[iRule]

Literature:

The Iliad/Odissey - Homer (Greece)
Dom Quixote de La Mancha - Cervantes (Spain)
Merchant of Venice - Shakespear (England)
The Lusiads (Portugal)
Utopia - Moore (England)
The Social Contract - Rousseau (France)
War and Peace/Anna Karenina - Tolstoy (Russia)
The Capital - Karl Marx (Germany)
War of the Worlds - H.G Wells (England)
Brave New World - Huxley (England)
The Great Gatsby - Fritzgerald (USA)
The Grapes of Wrath - Steinbeck (USA)

(maybe it's too anglo-centric and western-centric, and too focused on the Rennaisance-Modern era; both Shakespear's Merchant of Venice and Camões' the Lusiads fit so well the EP theme, and are revered as some of the seminal works of modern western literature)

Music:

Vivaldi's
Dvorak's New World symphony (plus, it was on Civ IV, and it was gorgeous!)
Beethoven 7th symphony
[ad nauseum, countless classical composers to choose from]
Erik Satie - perhaps the Gymnopedies
Some random Elvis' song to represent popular music
Tom Jobim - Insensatez, or the Girl from Ipanema.

So many good choices...

 

[bouncymischa]

Right, I've added Praise of the Folly, so that leaves the Huns. (I don't think they have any Great Literature to offer). Someone send this to Firaxis!

"A Collection of the Lamentations of Their Women", by Attila?

 

[Louis XXIV]

Isn't Rembrandt an obvious choice for a Dutch master? I'd be surprised if "The Night Watch" or a similar work wasn't included.

Either him or Vincent Van Gogh.

 

[GenjiKhan]

Right, I've added Praise of the Folly, so that leaves the Huns. (I don't think they have any Great Literature to offer)

Would it be far too stretched to add works done by Chuvash people? Apparently,Huns can represent them a bit,since Attila speaks their language ingame . In that case,I found one to represent them:

The Huns:Narspi

 

[Xger]

I'm surprised no one has mentioned Holst and the Planets, namely Mars, the Bringer of War given the strong war factor of Civ and Mars being one of the most famous "war themes"

 

[Eagle Pursuit]

I'm surprised no one has mentioned Holst and the Planets, namely Mars, the Bringer of War given the strong war factor of Civ and Mars being one of the most famous "war themes"

I had considered it, but since I was limiting myself to 3 Great Works, I nixed it.