While We Wait: (Almost) Anything Goes

[Luckymoose]

By press release playthroughs I mean youtube gamers who play it through over and over to the end. There is a bajillion series out there already, I usually follow quill18 and his impression is very positive. He's been livestreaming it for like 20 hours in the last week and it has crashed exactly once. Now the game setup possibilities are limited, and he seemed to win too easily even for Prince dificulty, but it looks really solid.

Edit: As I said, the World Congress is the only thing that really seems lacking. Sutely they will find stuff to add, too, but all in all it is a much more complete game than Civ5 was for a long long time, and a different one too.

quill18 is a paid advertiser. Don't trust LPers who get games early, because they've been paid to play them and be nice about them.

 

[Azale]

I really didn't expect to feel any hype from Civ 6, but it genuinely does look better than 5 (at least vanilla) in so many ways.

We should do a Civ 6 multiplayer S&T thread as a recruitment tool for NESing! Iggy and I both came out of Civ 3 S&T, if you'll believe it.

Although I guess there's nothing in theory that keeps us from doing this for 5. And I guess we might want to have active NESes for people to actually join. >_>

The only thing I'm worried about is AI, especially as the eras unfold. Sometimes it's hard to tell the quality of AI from initial playthroughs.

That S&T idea sounds pretty rad. Just do some basic stories based off of a civ game that we play?

 

[Lord_Iggy]

I did that many years ago. I wrote Empire of Greece- My First Story and 'Destiny of Glory: Persia in Civ 3 and Civ 4 respectively. When Empire of Greece faded out as my time shifted towards NESing, a few people followed me from Stories and Tales to NES.

 

[Thlayli]

Yeah, I think it would essentially be just roleplaying our states as we post individual diaries in a thread from our nations' perspectives.

There were some incredible stories though. Who can forget Celtic Warmongers? Or that one the penguins came from. And those were all solo affairs.

 

[Daftpanzer]

Man, I didn't realise how bad the pound had devalued as a currency until I saw Civ6 pre-order selling for £49.99.

FIFTY QUID. FIVE ZERO. 5 - 0. FIFTY EFFING POUNDS.

I've literally NEVER seen a base game selling for that much. Not a special edition, not a collection. Just the base game.

Now that is the equivalent of $60. But you have to understand that not so long ago, it would've been about $75 or even $85.

Those bastard brexit voters. Nobody has a effing clue what they've done.

Britain is dead. But more importantly, it's now effing expensive for me to buy Civilization games :/

 

[Thlayli]

And you guys have to pay VAT on top of that!

I never really understood why video game companies didn't simply convert the base local price into foreign currencies at current exchange rates...unless it's just systemically more expensive to produce things in Europe, which I would probably believe. But most single player games don't have substantial foreign production costs since most sales are digital! Although I guess server infrastructure and licensing fees vary, I doubt it's substantial enough to account for the full price differences.

Tldr it's probably a combination of Europe being a systemically more expensive place to do business (cause y'all got them there welfareisms) and companies shafting Euro/Aus gamers just because they can.

 

[erez87]

Produce? Games are sold through steam and online these days, the idea that they need to fix the price to the country's production needs is pointless in this era.

CIV6 is expansive... Will have to wait on some sort of major sale...

 

[Daftpanzer]

Just to put it in perspective: £50 could get you a very heavy night out, even considering how much we pay for alcohol, or a couple of nights average drinking in bars/pubs, or five small bottles of whiskey from the supermarket, or 40 bottles of Hobgoblin ale 500ml (my favourite) from the supermarket (now that's a party), or 10 bottles of red wine, or 33 luxury dark chocolate bars, or a week's train fare for me to and from work in the next city, or a week's worth of food (home cooked), or five indie games, or two pairs of jeans, or a nice hoodie, or a nice pair of shoes, or four days rent (damn that is too expensive anyway), or two and a half lapdances in a strip club, or half an hour of full sexual intercourse with an escort (so I've heard).

 

[erez87]

civ6 > alcohol

 

[Daftpanzer]

civ6 > alcohol

I'll wait for reviews to see how much it's worth in alcohol!

On the plus side: Civ V complete is selling for £32.50. Which I think is very reasonable in comparison? That's about $26.

 

[JohannaK]

And you guys have to pay VAT on top of that!

I dunno about the UK, but in Spain all prices include VAT. I believe it is illegal not to do that.

 

[Daftpanzer]

I dunno about the UK, but in Spain all prices include VAT. I believe it is illegal not to do that.

Yes this is true for the UK as well, you assume VAT is included, it has to be made clear otherwise.

 

[Luckymoose]

Games have been 60 bucks for decades; but thanks to Gabe, we poor prosper.

 

[Daftpanzer]

Games have been 60 bucks for decades; but thanks to Gabe, we poor prosper.

I still don't like the whole monopoly thing. But it's OK for me as I also have GOG and IndieGameStand to cater for my tastes.

 

[ork75]

Is it just me or is the IRC down?

 

[TheMeanestGuest]

It's down for me as well.

 

[Thlayli]

Replacement channel #nes is up at server irc.mibbit.com. (You don't need mibbit to connect.) Should be registered and persist until we can figure out the situation.

Edit: Normal channel is back up.

 

[Luckymoose]

Happy birthday to Iggy!

 

[JohannaK]

Is it? Happy birthday!

 

[Daftpanzer]

The icy hand of death draws one step closer.