While We Wait: The Next Generation

[alex994]

This conversation has been rather interesting. I admit I've never played an ideologically/culturally obsessed nation and have always been more pragmatic than anything else...

 

[Thlayli]

And I approve of them entirely in that regard. I just think the mass suicide of the nobility was a bit too well-coordinated, to say nothing of that cringe-worthy exile-and-return number.

The first can be explained by being rather like seppuku, a religious and code-of-honor arrangement. The latter can be explained by stating that the Satar are only tenuously linked to the 'Satarai' of Bronze Age legend. It's a matter of anthropological curiosity how much the two groups were intertwined or related.

 

[Thlayli]

This conversation has been rather interesting. I admit I've never played an ideologically/culturally obsessed nation and have always been more pragmatic than anything else...

I don't know, you've been quite culturally obsessive at times. Your...distaste over Guangfei having more than one culture might be an example.

 

[alex994]

I don't know, you've been quite culturally obsessive at times. Your...distaste over Guangfei having more than one culture might be an example.

That distaste was admittedly due to much more pragmatic measures; any culture which would support a foreign culture cannot be inherently relied upon by a monarchy and is thus a possible threat to the monarchy's existence. As such, they must be either co-opted or reduced in number and significance, ESPECIALLY if they've had a history of abetting foreign enemies in the past

EDIT: What I meant by my original comment was that I've never really allowed ideological/cultural factors to influence my decisions; they're all pragmatic

 

[Immaculate]

Has anyone played 'Emperor of the Fading Suns'? its a turn-based strategy game that came out in 1996. It was awesome... i think it would be a really great NES.

 

[Thlayli]

Well, that's not exactly realistic. Even pragmatism should always be linked to the cultural and ideological biases of the ruling class. You don't usually have pre-modern states acting with purely rationalist mindsets.

 

[Lord_Iggy]

My NPC plans had requests to come to the defense of my neighbours if the Hu'ut launched any further expansionist wars.

 

[Kal'thzar]

Its kind of liberating to be free of these worries of state

I have less of an effect as I wish, but I think NK is aware of those difficulties and in the main I agree with him...

 

[Abaddon]

I can't read conversations between all the same avatar. PLEASE change back, I am broken.

 

[North King]

Hush, Abaddon, you're only making it tempting for me to join in.

 

[Abaddon]

Fine, I just blocked all images from Civ fanatics (firefox)

 

[Kal'thzar]

So far I've been able to identify them by what they talk about. Not that hard.

 

[Masada]

Has anyone played 'Emperor of the Fading Suns'? its a turn-based strategy game that came out in 1996. It was awesome... i think it would be a really great NES.

Yep. It's a fun game

This conversation has been rather interesting. I admit I've never played an ideologically/culturally obsessed nation and have always been more pragmatic than anything else...

You can be pragmatic in that framework.

I think people were misinterpreting my "western" comment. You can have as many overtly non-Western ideas in a nation as you like and still have it structured along Western lines, viewing the universe as a western state would, and basically sharing the cosmovision of the West. Only three or four players have even come close to breaking this mold, and even they generally fall back into it when a crisis situation comes along.

Meh, I should rely lay out how my state functions, the bottom up idea has far more import in how the state sees itself and also explains the nightwatchmen state that the government operated under.

 

[das]

What, you want me to write a book?

Please do. I honestly have no idea of what you are talking about by this point, which is a tad bit inconvenient.

This conversation has been rather interesting. I admit I've never played an ideologically/culturally obsessed nation and have always been more pragmatic than anything else...

I prefer to roleplay more or less pragmatic rulers. There is no contradiction between that and paying a lot of OOC attention to culture.

Well, that's not exactly realistic. Even pragmatism should always be linked to the cultural and ideological biases of the ruling class. You don't usually have pre-modern states acting with purely rationalist mindsets.

Rationalism has nothing to do with it, really. Most rulers will be pragmatic to some extent, and if they won't their advisers will be. It's just that they will be pragmatic within their worldviews, and will conduct expensive human sacrifices to demons as a matter of political contingency.

I can't read conversations between all the same avatar. PLEASE change back, I am broken.

Glad to see it's working.

 

[Dachs]

Glad to see it's working.

Fun avatar changes are fun. My isopod derailed part of OT for awhile, which was nice.

 

[a_propagandist]

Join the Resistance!

 

[Angst]

Lol prop, that is certainly hilarious

However, the true reason why I'm not changing back... I'm too lazy. It will be done sometime.

 

[germanicus12]

I will join the resistance but I will not change my avatar.

 

[das]

However, the true reason why I'm not changing... I'm too lazy.

Bonus points for accurate imitation.

 

[Dachs]

My avatar has been changed (again), purely for political reasons.

Getting back to NESing: Masada, is CKS-NES really really dead?