While We Wait: Writer's Block & Other Lame Excuses

[Starlife]

Well, the rivers on your map also don't make any sense. But that's okay if you don't want to think too much into NESing; to each his own. I'm certainly not being critical or judgmental, just offering my two cents on your picture dilemma. Just remember: there's always room for improvement. I mean, I still have yet to write a decent update. I have much to learn about modding a NES.

 

[Terrance888]

@ Starlife: They are a choice. If Lizard wishes to use that choice, that is up to him. I see your point, and I hope you see mine concerning uses of pictures (both real and player made) and/or extended descriptions (for example, I had a few scenes in my NES best represented via Picture/Video more than anything else). Descriptions, Pictures- as long as they fit the tone and your goal, the choice to use them is up to the individual.

EDIT: That is being VERY self-critical. What would you consider (via example) as a minimum of a decent update? I've written some decent update sections, although I never written a good cohesive entire update (although that has much to do with what I've been given per region, as well as my own lacking interest in certain regions)

Now, apply my epic google skills, I found several good sites.
This and This website has lots of statues and physical stuff that are interesting.
This is History of Art including ancient and classical eras, with lots of good stuff you can take but much of it is sandwhiched with text.
I used these myself both for my Banner as well as for some specific warfare things. If you branch out to the left side you can find much more pictures. Example: A page on Druids.

30 Minutes of effort for my good friend as I steal time between my bannage. Good luck!

 

[TheLizardKing]

Well, the rivers on your map also don't make any sense. But that's okay if you don't want to think too much into NESing; to each his own. I'm certainly not being critical or judgmental, just offering my two cents on your picture dilemma. Just remember: there's always room for improvement. I mean, I still have yet to write a decent update. I have much to learn about modding a NES.

In no way had I ever tried to create that feasible of a world. Some NESers have the experience, talent and attention-span for such things. I don't. I don't really see the relevancy of how plausible my rivers are, in a conversation about me wanting to use pictures either.

As you said to each their own. This is really distracting from my original question however; any suggested sites?

EDIT: Thanks for the links Terrance.

 

[Starlife]

Terrance: You are stating the obvious. No one said they are going to force TheLizardKing to do anything. Of course it is personal choice. Why must you be so argumentative? I was simply giving him an alternative to finding pictures. I thought I could discuss anything in this thread related to NESing. I'm not being critical of TLK. No one is disputing anything, or arguing. We are just stating our separate opinions and differentiating between our styles of NESing. Totally civil. I had been thinking about this picture issue since Daft posted that lovely album of paintings (which, by the way, I completely respect; even given my education, I could never produce anything like that... then again, I never liked painting ).

EDIT: That is being VERY self-critical. What would you consider (via example) as a minimum of a decent update? I've written some decent update sections, although I never written a good cohesive entire update (although that has much to do with what I've been given per region, as well as my own lacking interest in certain regions)

Yeah. I'm extremely self-critical.

 

[TheLizardKing]

On a side note, I found that one website incredibly helpful Terrance. That 'karenwhimsy.com' site.

I don't think anyone is being critical, and I sure hope no one is really too upset. Just a differing of opinions. No need for anyone getting their feathers ruffled.

 

[Starlife]

Amen, brother!

To help you with the topic at hand, I would just recommend looking into Baroque art. That "return to classicism" will offer hundreds of paintings and sculptures portraying a variety of subject matter from myth to history. Those artists were obsessed with the "classical" era.

 

[TheLizardKing]

I have been getting a few good images here and there, but the issue you pinpointed before keeps arising. It's hard for me to use images of say, the Roman Empire, as most of those paintings are clearly Roman. From the soldiers, to perhaps the dress of certain figures. I'm instead looking towards... uh.. I guess the way to put it would be 'vague' pictures. That could represent a non-specific civilization.

A picture like this, would be a good example.

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While I'm sure some of the more historically minded NESers could spot tell-tale signs as to where and when this picture would be from, I certainly have more use for it then a picture such as

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where there are clearly Roman soldiers. If that makes sense. I'm finding it hard to explain.

Though, I did google some baroque paintings, and some are helpful.

 

[Eltain]

I can't see the first image.

Nothing more to add.. move along. >_>

 

[Lord_Iggy]

Image Tag error: here's the first picture.

 

[Eltain]

That is CLEARLY Phoenician, sir. I AM DISSAPOINT. Thank you Iggy.

 

[TheLizardKing]

Thanks Iggy.

And Eltain always seems disappointed in me.

The URL also helps.

EDIT: Just noticed a google search of 'Ancient Civilizations' brings up a picture of an End of Empires map, a page or so down.

 

[Eltain]

Googling fantasy or ancient maps brought me to the N3S page, and i was like 'holy feuk', bookmarked it, and came back a year later to join my first NES.

 

[Terrance888]

Terrance: You are stating the obvious. No one said they are going to force TheLizardKing to do anything. Of course it is personal choice. Why must you be so argumentative? I was simply giving him an alternative to finding pictures. I thought I could discuss anything in this thread related to NESing. I'm not being critical of TLK. No one is disputing anything, or arguing. We are just stating our separate opinions and differentiating between our styles of NESing. Totally civil. I had been thinking about this picture issue since Daft posted that lovely album of paintings (which, by the way, I completely respect; even given my education, I could never produce anything like that... then again, I never liked painting ).



Yeah. I'm extremely self-critical.

I might just be reading your tone wrong. Seeing as I only have a few minutes stolen each day.

 

[Luckymoose]

Aiming for Thursday as the next DD session.

 

[Son of Erdrick]

@Lizard: Try googling Osprey Publishing. They specialize in artwork depicting all sorts of peoples from all sorts of eras.

 

[Starlife]

I still can't see the first image.

Titian is the best place to start for true pre-Baroque, and what inspired all the guys after. Look into that artist. Just type "Titian paintings" into Google images. But little of that is usable for what you seek.

Nicolas Poussin might be your best bet in terms of Baroque and well-painted "classical"-ish subject matter. There was a rift in Baroque painting with Poussin and Rubens. You can look into Rubens, but that stuff is a lot more expressive and era-specific. Poussin did more classicism-inspired subject matter, and was strict about artists doing anything other than that. Anything from Rape of the Sabines to Oath of the Horatii (just to name one of his most famous, and another work inspired by him; but find some of his lesser known works, and other artists and works inspired by his movement, and you'll discover classical-era kings, battles, and other such content).

EDIT: Guido Reni, also, might be good -- but you might have to crop religious figures out of martyrdoms, which could be awkward.

 

[Dachs]

Uh, "Oath of the Horatii" was definitely a not-at-all-Baroque work painted by Jacques-Louis David.

 

[Starlife]

Uh, "Oath of the Horatii" was definitely a not-at-all-Baroque work painted by Jacques-Louis David.

Uh, David, inspired by Poussin (actually woudn't exist without him), and Neoclassical, which was a direct result of Baroque. Calling anything by David "not-at-all Baroque" is like calling Jackson Pollock not-at-all abstract.

EDIT: Here is a (not great), but brief overview of Poussin and some artists inspired by him. At any rate, David was most certainly a Poussiniste. And by the way, I intended to link to and text to The Death of Germanicus. My bad? That might be a good one for your purposes, TLK.

 

[Dachs]

Uh, David, inspired by Poussin (actually woudn't exist without him), and Neoclassical, which was a direct result of Baroque. Calling anything by David "not-at-all Baroque" is like calling Jackson Pollock not-at-all abstract.

Yeah, well, your original, unedited post referred to it as a Poussin painting. Which it was a few centuries away from being.

Not going to get into the whole "influencing" thing, but yeesh.

 

[Starlife]

If by a few centuries, you mean a little more than a single century.