White Genocide

[AlpsStranger]

I care far more about what ideologies dominate the future than what color the people are.

 

[del62]

There is not really one group of Africans though, someone from Rwanda has very little in common with someone from say Senegal.

Just as I as and Anglo-Saxon had very little in common with someone from Russia

 

[Masada]

This is all academic. When White Nationalists complain about African American influence on their national cultures... there's an implicit recognition that biological factors have nothing to do with how people construct themselves.

How do we know if someone is native American?

You ask them?

How do we know if someone is African?

You would have a point if I was discussing Europeans. You know, people who live in Europe. (There's also an 'African' identity which some people use but which has more resonance in the West because we're ignorant; kind of like how Chinese look at Europe and see just 'Europeans', as opposed to French, Germans, Swedes etc. There's just not the understanding sufficient to inform their opinions)

Basically what you are saying is that white people don't exist.

No, I'm saying there's no biological justification for white people. There might be a socio-cultural white construct and I accept that. However if we accept that it is socio-cultural then it follows that interracial marriages do nothing in of themselves to diminish whiteness. If that's the case, then you could have two parents of whatever colour conforming to white socio-cultural norms bringing up white children. I know lots of people of Chinese descent who conform to more Anglo-Australian cultural norms than I do; despite me being much closer to Europe in ancestral terms than them.

Would you really go to Kongo and say "You people don't exist. There are no black people.

No, then again I would suggest that there was no biological basis to the state of being black.

You are just a silly social construct and I hope that Chinese people become the majority in your country and that your ethnic group disappears"? I think not. But you gladly do so in a white country. Anti white

It isn't a 'silly' social constuct; it is a social construct though. Whether or not it's important or not honestly depends on the person.

 

[Oerdin]

What about jews? Do they exist?

As a race? No, they're Caucasians but they do exist as a religious group. Do you have some point or reason for constantly bringing up the topic of Jewish people?

 

[Masada]

As a race? No, they're Caucasians but they do exist as a religious group.

A substantial number of Jews couldn't have ever have been defined as Caucasians; assuming that the whole Caucasoid thing is a meaningful or useful term to begin with (hint: it isn't). And Jews are not just a religious group. There's no end of atheistic Jews or Christian Jews. It's far more accurate to suggest that the Jews constitute a nation who believe themselves to hold a shared heritage and that Judaism also happens to be a religion, which shares the same name as the Jews, though not all Jews are Jewish, in the religious sense, and not all adherents to Judaism are Jews in the national sense.

 

[AL_DA_GREAT]

This is all academic. When White Nationalists complain about African American influence on their national cultures... there's an implicit recognition that biological factors have nothing to do with how people construct themselves.

So you deny evolution?

You would have a point if I was discussing Europeans. You know, people who live in Europe. (There's also an 'African' identity which some people use but which has more resonance in the West because we're ignorant; kind of like how Chinese look at Europe and see just 'Europeans', as opposed to French, Germans, Swedes etc. There's just not the understanding sufficient to inform their opinions)

I agree, I don't identify myself as white, my identity is much more local.

No, I'm saying there's no biological justification for white people. There might be a socio-cultural white construct and I accept that. However if we accept that it is socio-cultural then it follows that interracial marriages do nothing in of themselves to diminish whiteness. If that's the case, then you could have two parents of whatever colour conforming to white socio-cultural norms bringing up white children. I know lots of people of Chinese descent who conform to more Anglo-Australian cultural norms than I do; despite me being much closer to Europe in ancestral terms than them.

Would you really say that to a concerned native American? Don'y worry, you don't really exist. All these people comming off the boat will not cause any harm. You would say so to white people. You are anti white.

It isn't a 'silly' social constuct; it is a social construct though. Whether or not it's important or not honestly depends on the person.

So evolution doesn't exist? Seriously if you can't see the diversity in mankind you are blind. You deny that white people exist. That is anti white.

 

[AL_DA_GREAT]

As a race? No, they're Caucasians but they do exist as a religious group. Do you have some point or reason for constantly bringing up the topic of Jewish people?

So what is your view on Israel. Do the jews have a right to a jewish country?

 

[useless]

I agree, I don't identify myself as white, my identity is much more local

Wait, aren't you a (self-admitted) white nationalist?

 

[AL_DA_GREAT]

Wait, aren't you a (self-admitted) white nationalist?

More a western European nationalist. White nationalism is flawed as it sees white people as one group and not many very different groups. I do support all ethnic nationalists regardless of what ethnicity they are fighting for.

 

[Bugfatty300]

Is "western European" an ethnic group?

Edit:

I do support all ethnic nationalists regardless of what ethnicity they are fighting for

What about mixed people fighting to expand and preserve their group?

 

[AL_DA_GREAT]

Is "western European" an ethnic group?

I would call myself a Scandinavian nationalist.

 

[r16]

in Turkey practically everything is imported , hence a newspaper crying out that there would no more blondes by 2070 ...

also we regularly hear that East European / Scandinavian women are free to enter US without any kind of visas so that whiteness of America will be protected . Doubt that but is this the case ?

 

[AL_DA_GREAT]

in Turkey practically everything is imported , hence a newspaper crying out that there would no more blondes by 2070 ...

also we regularly hear that East European / Scandinavian women are free to enter US without any kind of visas so that whiteness of America will be protected . Doubt that but is this the case ?

Just out of curiosity. Do you believe that your ethnic group exists or that it is just a construct? Do you believe that your ethnic group has the right to its own country? Would you want millions of Chinese people to move to Turkey?

 

[Quackers]

what's a white person and how do i define one? hint: if we're using a 'i think i'm white, therefore i'm white' approach that rules out the biological approach i.e. the sole one that could possibly object to interracial relationships.

and shame on you people for accepting 'white' as a meaningful metric to begin with.

..are we going to get into that crazy academic definitions of "race" now?
"Race is only a social construct", I never really understood that, the wikipedia article on it is mystifying. It's like reading the longest TF post ever.

I prefer the common use definitions from people;p

 

[Bugfatty300]

also we regularly hear that East European / Scandinavian women are free to enter US without any kind of visas so that whiteness of America will be protected . Doubt that but is this the case ?

That used to be the case more or less but not anymore though I'm sure a lot of people would like to see that policy return.

 

[r16]

thanks for the info .

Just out of curiosity. Do you believe that your ethnic group exists or that it is just a construct? Do you believe that your ethnic group has the right to its own country? Would you want millions of Chinese people to move to Turkey?

ı was born as member of the Turkish minority in Bulgaria , moved here when ı was one and a half . ı feel ı am Turkish and that is practically all there is to it . Which of course does not refute that my family , the environment and the school taught me that ı was a Turk . Politics twist lots of things around . Going a full tilt nationalism where people check your genes and stuff means nothing except danger to those who don't confirm/conform ; and ı sincerely doubt that my round blue eyes could be counted as Turkish , since one would then have to go back to Central Asia 700AD if not previous . The point is in the flamewars ı have been ı have been called anything including nationalities ı feel nothing for or against ; when they ran out of epithets regarding sexual preference or IQ levels . For the last sentence , ı would say we surely own the world , or we must be , and ı remember China was still large enough for them if they stopped polluting too much .

 

[kochman]

In White Nationalist circles the term White Genocide gets thrown around a lot, it is usually in reference to "White" people having children with "Non Whites". Is this a fair use of the term genocide in your opinion?

Of course not...

 

[kochman]

also we regularly hear that East European / Scandinavian women are free to enter US without any kind of visas so that whiteness of America will be protected . Doubt that but is this the case ?

This is completely and absolutely false. I had a hell of a time getting my eastern european ex-wife a visa...
In fact, you'd have a much easier time getting into America as a Saudi woman or somewhere that can claim "asylum".

There is no effort to protect the whiteness of America... if you find one, please let me know.

 

[luiz]

Frankly the sooner the vast majority of Americans start thinking of themselves as "mixed race" the better. Then they can get over their ridiculous racial (and racist) policies such as AA, and stop exporting that nonsense to the rest of the world.

I yearn for the extinction of white americans and black americans.

 

[AL_DA_GREAT]

Frankly the sooner the vast majority of Americans start thinking of themselves as "mixed race" the better. Then they can get over their ridiculous racial (and racist) policies such as AA, and stop exporting that nonsense to the rest of the world.

I yearn for the extinction of white americans and black americans.

Most of them are not mixed race.

Would you say this to native Americans? Would you tell them that they are racemixed, don't exist and that they should disappear or does that only apply to white people?