Who-2 Keith goes to the Moon.

[Bede]

I see it and will sort it out tomorrow,

 

[IroquoisPlisken]

I took it before you, Whomp, since you had left for a week. We're back on track, now.

Monty is mad because our best friend, Roosevelt, asked us to cancel all deals with him (just Open Borders). Monty was already annoyed with us, iirc, so I figured having one great ally and one enemy was better than having an annoyed and a cautious.

 

[Bede]

The Scientist did not generate enough beakers to finish Printing so I have to change research to PP and run full bore to get it in four turns.

1525 AD
Shanghai begins: Market
Nanjing begins: Work Boat
Chengdu finishes: Barracks

Research begun: Printing Press
Chengdu begins: Forge
Guangzhou grows: 10
Xian's borders expand
Hangzhou grows: 5
Shandong finishes: Lighthouse
Kaifeng's borders expand

1530 AD
Shandong begins: Forge
Xian finishes: Courthouse
Macau finishes: Library
Kaifeng grows: 2
Islam has spread: Kaifeng

1535 AD
Xian begins: Barracks
Macau begins: Courthouse
Kaifeng begins: Islamic Monastery
Kaifeng begins: Work Boat
Tech learned: Printing Press
Nanjing finishes: Work Boat

1540 AD
Research begun: Banking

The trading round starts here and nets us Groceries and Guns. We lack certain food bonuses and can't trade for them so Grocers won't be much help

Tech learned: Guilds
Tech learned: Gunpowder
Nanjing finishes: Harbor
Chengdu finishes: Forge

1545 AD
Chengdu begins: Musketman
Chengdu begins: Work Boat
Beijing grows: 10

1550 AD
Research begun: Banking
Xian finishes: Barracks
Chengdu finishes: Work Boat
Hangzhou grows: 6
Tianjin finishes: Courthouse
Macau grows: 4

1555 AD
Xian begins: Musketman
Chengdu begins: Musketman
Tianjin begins: Forge
Tech learned: Banking

Beijing has gotten unhappy and unhealthy so I apply the whip to finish the Unversity.

Beijing finishes: University
Shanghai finishes: Buddhist Monastery
Guangzhou finishes: Market
Macau's borders expand

Frankie learns Liberalism and plants San Francisco in the tundra and off the coast (so no access to the sea for the furs he is poaching).

1560 AD
Guangzhou begins: Barracks
Beijing begins: Cho-Ko-Nu
Beijing finishes: Cho-Ko-Nu
Hangzhou finishes: Work Boat
Kaifeng grows: 3

1565 AD
Cho-Ko-Nu promoted: Combat I
Beijing begins: Forge

And another trading round (Printing to Persia) finally gets us to Astronomy

Tech learned: Astronomy

And we begin on Parts

Research begun: Replaceable Parts
Guangzhou grows: 11
Xian grows: 9

(1570 AD)

And so to bed in 1575

Can't tell what direction I took here other than to get us into the thick of the tech race and get some infrastructure and a couple of garrison troops built. There is another Scientist due soon. And there are dyes coming from Persia so we can build more theatres for the happy effect if needed.

 

[Whomp]

Good work Bede. I tried to stagnate growth too but rushing the citizen was a great idea.

We needed to get back in the tech game. Astro gives us the opportunity to trade freely. Weird thing about astro is all the AI seem to convert to mercantilism about the same time. Maybe we can get some war activity going with Monty to get everyone out of their civics.

Eldar -
Whomp -
Pliskenator -
The Grumpy Old Monk - Got us to parity
Soul Jive - UP

 

[soul_warrior]

i have it.
play tonight.

 

[soul_warrior]

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Turn 225 (1575 AD)
Beijing finishes: Forge
Nanjing grows: 9
Nanjing finishes: Forge
Xian finishes: Musketman
Kaifeng finishes: Work Boat

Turn 226 (1580 AD)
Beijing begins: Observatory
Xian begins: Observatory
Kaifeng begins: Barracks
Kaifeng begins: Work Boat
Musketman promoted: City Garrison I
Shanghai grows: 11
Confucianism has spread: Nanjing
Chengdu finishes: Musketman
Hangzhou grows: 7

Turn 227 (1585 AD)
Chengdu begins: Market

Turn 228 (1590 AD)
Guangzhou finishes: Barracks
Shandong grows: 3

Turn 229 (1595 AD)
Guangzhou begins: Observatory
Musketman promoted: City Garrison I
Al-Razi (Great Scientist) born in Beijing
---waited a bit and hoped to get Sci Meth. no luck, but cut research time to 5 turns.
Shandong finishes: Forge
Kaifeng grows: 4

Turn 230 (1600 AD)
Shandong begins: Market
Tech learned: Replaceable Parts
Kaifeng finishes: Work Boat

Turn 231 (1605 AD)
Research begun: Rifling
Kaifeng begins: Lighthouse
Research begun: Scientific Method
REP PARTS get us these and a few bob (300 or so)
Tech learned: Economics
Tech learned: Divine Right
Beijing finishes: Observatory
Shanghai finishes: Market

Turn 232 (1610 AD)
Beijing begins: Bank
Shanghai finishes: Work Boat
Xian grows: 10
Xian finishes: Observatory
Tianjin finishes: Forge

Turn 233 (1615 AD)
Shanghai begins: Observatory
Xian begins: University
Tianjin begins: Market
Nanjing finishes: Market
Chengdu finishes: Market

Turn 234 (1620 AD)
Nanjing begins: Observatory
Chengdu begins: Musketman

the science scene as of now is this.
i think were holding up nicely.
spent most builds on observatories and such.

 

[IroquoisPlisken]

Eldar - UP
Whomp - on deck
Pliskenator -
The Grumpy Old Monk -
Soul Jive - increased our knowledge

 

[eldar]

Ahh. Tomorrow possibly. Today,

 

[Whomp]

I think we are pretty relaxed with a New year upon us. Happy New Year all!! Don't do anything I would.

 

[eldar]

Zzzz. Ignore the date on the save file; it is actually the 1670 save.

Turn 234 (1620 AD)
Beijing begins: Grocer
Hangzhou begins: Library
Tech learned: Philosophy
Hinduism has spread: Chengdu

Turn 235 (1625 AD)
Tech learned: Scientific Method
Hangzhou grows: 8
Kaifeng grows: 5

Turn 236 (1630 AD)
Research begun: Chemistry
Research begun: Nationalism
Research begun: Constitution
Research begun: Corporation
Beijing finishes: Bank

Turn 237 (1635 AD)
Guangzhou grows: 12

Turn 238 (1640 AD)
Guangzhou's borders expand

Turn 239 (1645 AD)
Tech learned: Nationalism
Xian grows: 11
Chengdu finishes: Musketman

Turn 240 (1650 AD)
Tech learned: Constitution
Musketman promoted: City Garrison I
Chengdu begins: Observatory
Nanjing grows: 10
Xian finishes: University
Macau finishes: Courthouse
Kaifeng grows: 6
Kaifeng finishes: Lighthouse

Turn 241 (1655 AD)
Xian begins: Grocer
Macau begins: Granary
Kaifeng begins: Granary
Hangzhou grows: 9

Turn 242 (1660 AD)
Tech learned: Corporation
Beijing finishes: Grocer
Shanghai grows: 12
Guangzhou finishes: Observatory
Tianjin grows: 4
Shandong grows: 4

Turn 243 (1665 AD)
Research begun: Physics
Guangzhou begins: Grocer
Beijing begins: Granary
Nanjing finishes: Observatory
Kaifeng grows: 7

Turn 244 (1670 AD)
Nanjing begins: Granary

 

[Whomp]

Ah lazy day. I got it.

 

[eldar]

Umm, spread Confucianism. Should've said that.

 

[Whomp]

OK well I set up a defensive pact with America since Monte's caravel was lurking around. I tried to draw him in so we could get a nice little war going overseas but no dice....he decided to leave. Researching physics got us two more techs in trade. I also renegotiated some deals since some civs had excess cash flow. All were renewed for bigger cash. Confucianism was spread around so we get some happiness from that. We are still a little light on health in some cities so I've tried to balance shields and GP points.

There's a great scientist ready for something to do. Rifling may be an option(forgot to check so worth checking before the turns) or we could join him into one of our really scientific cities. Beijing is not it.


Turn 244 (1670 AD)
Beijing finishes: Granary
Shanghai finishes: Observatory
Tianjin's borders expand

Turn 245 (1675 AD)
Beijing begins: Knight
Shanghai begins: Heroic Epic
Xian finishes: Grocer
Kaifeng's borders expand
Kaifeng finishes: Granary

Turn 246 (1680 AD)
Xian begins: Bank
Kaifeng begins: Galleon
Nanjing finishes: Granary

Turn 247 (1685 AD)
Nanjing begins: Confucian Missionary
Beijing finishes: Knight
Chengdu finishes: Observatory
Kaifeng grows: 8

Turn 248 (1690 AD)
Beijing begins: Knight
Chengdu begins: Bank
Hangzhou grows: 10
Macau grows: 5

Turn 249 (1695 AD)
Nanjing finishes: Confucian Missionary
Xian finishes: Bank
Kaifeng grows: 9

Turn 250 (1700 AD)
Nanjing begins: Confucian Missionary
Xian begins: Theatre
Beijing finishes: Knight
Guangzhou finishes: Grocer

Turn 251 (1705 AD)
Beijing begins: Knight
Guangzhou begins: Bank
Confucianism has spread: Xian
Shanghai finishes: Heroic Epic
Xian finishes: Theatre
Tianjin finishes: Market

Turn 252 (1710 AD)
Shanghai begins: Bank
Xian begins: Confucian Missionary
Tianjin begins: Musketman
Tech learned: Physics
Francis Bacon (Great Scientist) born in Beijing
Xian finishes: Confucian Missionary
Hangzhou finishes: Library

Turn 253 (1715 AD)
Research begun: Electricity
Xian begins: Globe Theatre
Tech learned: Military Tradition
Tech learned: Chemistry
Confucianism has spread: Beijing
Hangzhou begins: Market
Nanjing finishes: Confucian Missionary
Chengdu finishes: Bank

Turn 254 (1720 AD)
Nanjing begins: Cavalry
Chengdu begins: University
Confucianism has spread: Hangzhou

 

[eldar]

Caravels can only carry non-military units - so there's no need to get paranoid about them. We want to research as fast as we can, so the scientist should go towards Rifling, if we can't trade for it already. Rifling gets us two techs from Rocketry, which is our springboard to the stars!

 

[IroquoisPlisken]

Got it. I'll play later today or tomorrow.

 

[Whomp]

Lower half of the 2nd SG page deserves a bump. IP?

 

[IroquoisPlisken]

Sorry, been busy this week. I'll definitely take it tomorrow afternoon. If Bede can take it before then, go ahead.

 

[Bede]

I'll take the swap. Got it. Played tonight


Turn 254 (1720 AD)
Shanghai finishes: Academy
Guangzhou begins: University
Shanghai begins: University

Need to spread the faith a little further to take advantage of the Organized Religion civic
Beijing begins: Confucian Missionary
Nanjing begins: University
Hangzhou begins: University
Comment: Revolt to Representation as it will help both the cost structure and the happiness in our largest towns and boost the research rate
Taoism has spread: Tianjin

Turn 255 (1725 AD)
Kaifeng begins: Market
Beijing begins: Confucian Missionary
Nanjing's borders expand
Shandong finishes: Market
Kaifeng grows: 10

Turn 256 (1730 AD)
Shandong begins: Library
Beijing finishes: Confucian Missionary

Turn 257 (1735 AD)
Confucianism has spread: Shanghai
Beijing begins: Confucian Missionary
Beijing finishes: Confucian Missionary
Nanjing grows: 11

Turn 258 (1740 AD)
Kaifeng begins: Harbor
Kaifeng begins: Aqueduct
Confucianism has spread: Guangzhou
Beijing begins: Confucian Missionary
Hangzhou's borders expand

Turn 259 (1745 AD)
Comment: Liberalism spreads and the big dogs adopt Free Speech and Free Religion.
Beijing finishes: Confucian Missionary
Shanghai grows: 13
Macau finishes: Granary

Turn 260 (1750 AD)
Beijing begins: Confucian Missionary
Macau begins: Caravel
Beijing finishes: Confucian Missionary
Xian finishes: Globe Theatre
Tianjin finishes: Musketman
Shandong grows: 5

Turn 261 (1755 AD)
Confucianism has spread: Chengdu
Beijing begins: Cavalry
Xian begins: Cavalry
Tianjin begins: Grenadier
Beijing begins: Confucian Missionary
Beijing finishes: Confucian Missionary
Guangzhou grows: 13
Kaifeng grows: 8
Kaifeng finishes: Aqueduct

Turn 262 (1760 AD)
Confucianism has spread: Macau
Kaifeng begins: Courthouse
Kaifeng begins: Forge
Beijing finishes: Cavalry
Kaifeng grows: 9

Turn 263 (1765 AD)
Confucianism has spread: Shandong
Comment: Mansa comes calling to offer coal for Uranium, determine theat we don't need no steekin' coal. It gives a 50% boost to the Iron Works and lets you build ironclads and that seems to be the only advantage.
Beijing begins: Cavalry
Tech learned: Electricity
Chengdu finishes: University
Macau's borders expand

Turn 264 (1770 AD)
Research begun: Steel
Chengdu begins: Aqueduct
Chengdu begins: Forbidden Palace
Tech learned: Rifling
Tech learned: Liberalism
Comment: Get Rifling and Liberalism from Mansa for Electricity
Tech learned: Steel
Comment: Get Steel and some chump change from FDR for light bulbs.
Research begun: Artillery
Research begun: Rocketry
Comment: We might want to consider Free Religion and Free Speech but we would want to spread Religions other than Confucianism to get the most benefit.
Shanghai finishes: University
Guangzhou finishes: Bank
Nanjing grows: 12
Chengdu grows: 9
Macau grows: 6
Kaifeng grows: 10

Turn 265 (1775 AD)
Guangzhou begins: Granary
Guangzhou begins: Drydock
Xian finishes: Cavalry
Hangzhou grows: 11

All of the local towns have gotten the Confucian word so we can think about spreading it elsewhere for the added couple of gold per turn per town. Though since we lack the shrine it may not prove really worth it, and so best ot keep the hammers at home in the form of Cavalry. Buying Combustion and then Flight when it comes up would be a good idea so we can put down some oil wells and train Gunships instead of cav.

 

[IroquoisPlisken]

Alright, I forgot what the command was to insert a comment, so I'll have to write down trades from memory...

Turn 265 (1775 AD)
Xian finishes: Cavalry
Hangzhou grows: 11

Turn 266 (1780 AD)
Xian begins: Cavalry
Xian begins: Ironworks
Comment: Xian is making around 30 spt, iirc, and only Beijing is larger.
Beijing grows: 9
Beijing finishes: Cavalry
Nanjing finishes: University
Shandong's borders expand

Turn 267 (1785 AD)
Beijing begins: Broadway
Comment: I chose to start Broadway because we need more resources to trade (we have none of the things that Grocers give bonuses too, for example).
Nanjing begins: Bank
Shandong finishes: Library

Turn 268 (1790 AD)
Shandong begins: Theatre
Kaifeng finishes: Forge

Turn 269 (1795 AD)
Kaifeng begins: Courthouse

Turn 270 (1800 AD)
Tech learned: Artillery
Shanghai finishes: Bank
Chengdu finishes: Forbidden Palace
Tianjin finishes: Grenadier

Turn 271 (1802 AD)
Research begun: Rocketry
Shanghai begins: Confucian Missionary
Chengdu begins: Theatre
Tianjin begins: Theatre
Tech learned: Biology
Comment: Uhh...I think I traded Artillery to Cyrus for the tech, 80 gold, and a World Map.
Shanghai finishes: Confucian Missionary
Xian's borders expand

Turn 272 (1804 AD)
Shanghai begins: Aqueduct
Tech learned: Communism
Comment: I traded...something (Biology I think, but looking back, that sounds like a bad deal for us...) to Roosevelt plus some gold and a WM.

Turn 273 (1806 AD)
Nanjing finishes: Bank
Chengdu finishes: Theatre
Hangzhou finishes: University
Shandong finishes: Theatre

Turn 274 (1808 AD)
Nanjing begins: Aqueduct
Chengdu begins: Confucian Temple
Shandong begins: Courthouse
Hangzhou begins: Aqueduct
Tech learned: Steam Power
Comment: Artillery to Cyrus for the tech, gold, and a WM.
Confucianism has spread: Tianjin
Shanghai finishes: Aqueduct

Turn 275 (1810 AD)
Shanghai begins: Confucian Missionary

I forgot to check, but I believe we are now at tech parity again.

Only Kaifeng does not have Confucianism.

Guangzhou will get another GPerson in 2 turns, most likely a Scientist (72%). Rocketry is due in 4 turns.

I highly suggest revolting to Freedom of Speech and Religion, but I think we should wait until Broadway finishes in 8 turns (the capital is getting like an extra 75% shields from two Civics). FoS would give us lots of gold (each Town gives an extra +2 gold) and FoR would help our relations with the other civs.

 

[Whomp]

Great work IP. How do we get Monty to declare....

I know SW is in full on feast mode so I'd say let Eldar play the save today if he sees this unless SW posts otherwise.

Eldar -
Whomp -
Pliskenator -
The Grumpy Old Monk -
Soul Jive -