Who invented Santa Claus and why?
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Perfection said:
Which teaches us that:
Sinterklaas, wie kent hem niet, Sinterklaas, Sinterklaas en natuurlijk Zwarte Piet!
He only looks slightly different from Santa.
Sinterklaas or Sint Nicolaas lives in Madrid (Spain
) and visits Hollland and Belgium on his birthday: 5th of december. As a kid, I was told he is 673 years old or so.For some reason, the orginally pretty racist tradition of the wise, white old Sinterklaas and his dumb black servants (refered to as Zwarte Piet, Black Pete) has survived until today.
Originally, Saint Nicholas was a catholic bishop form Myra, in todays Turkey.
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PlutonianEmpire said:
Christmas is a merge of the Germanic mid-winter-parties, where pinetrees were set on fire, and the afterwards constructed birth of a Messiah.
Whether you believe in Christ or not, it should be questioned he was born in the night of december 24th-25th.
Mithra's birthday was also December 25, and his following precedes Jesus'.
A fairly obvious problem with the date of December 25 is that I doubt shepherds would be tending sheep at night in the middle of winter. Someone from Israel could correct me here, as maybe it's warm through the winter.
A fairly obvious problem with the date of December 25 is that I doubt shepherds would be tending sheep at night in the middle of winter. Someone from Israel could correct me here, as maybe it's warm through the winter.
St. Nick was/is a saint of the church. He's creditied with being kind to children and giving them gifts.
About 1920 Norman rockwell did a pinting of a larger ST. Nick in red. Since Rockwell was famous this became the accepted rendition - soon Coca-cola joined in. Now its just comeralisim and he's called Santa Clause.
About 1920 Norman rockwell did a pinting of a larger ST. Nick in red. Since Rockwell was famous this became the accepted rendition - soon Coca-cola joined in. Now its just comeralisim and he's called Santa Clause.
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Could it be that black Petes are deviation of slavic Czerts (Lesser Devils), or vice versa? (Czerts or Cherts, are reason why all Czech and Slovak (and maybe Polish) kids quite fear evening before st. Nicholas day- he would then go from house to house with entourage of angels and these "lesser devils" seeking out children, while children would hide under beds and cupboards and in closets, and often had to forcefully presented to Mikulá).
But as far as I can tell, catholics have Christkid and Protestants st. Nicholas, some of the latter than would then move his day on Christsmas Day.
Could it be that black Petes are deviation of slavic Czerts (Lesser Devils), or vice versa? (Czerts or Cherts, are reason why all Czech and Slovak (and maybe Polish) kids quite fear evening before st. Nicholas day- he would then go from house to house with entourage of angels and these "lesser devils" seeking out children, while children would hide under beds and cupboards and in closets, and often had to forcefully presented to Mikulá).
But as far as I can tell, catholics have Christkid and Protestants st. Nicholas, some of the latter than would then move his day on Christsmas Day.
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And due to Santa Claus removing all the importance of Christmas and turning into nothing more than a vehicle for Western capitalism, we atheists can join the fun too! 
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