Whose side is justified?

[Perfection]

Why can't both sides be justified?

 

[timtofly]

Why can't both sides be justified?

I seem to be the only one that concurs.

 

[NickyJ]

There's a man goin' 'round takin' names
An' he decides who to free and who to blame
Everybody won't be treated all the same
There'll be a golden ladder reaching down
When the man comes around

I say we let that man take their names and decide who to free and who to blame.

 

[Berzerker]

neither combatant accused the other side of actually starting the war, without a valid claim of self defense war cant be justified

 

[LucyDuke]

Poll needs "neither".

 

[Borachio]

I say they were both justified in that war kills people and they got the fruit of their labor.

This is a strange use of the word justified.

But still:

"They that sow the wind, shall reap the whirlwind"

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

Insulting someone's mom is just not done.

 

[rugbyLEAGUEfan]

War is as ancient as humanity itself. And the only people who are justified and ancient are The KLF

 

[holy king]

I say they were both justified in that war kills people and they got the fruit of their labor.

i do not comprehend this sentence.

 

[rugbyLEAGUEfan]

i do not comprehend this sentence.

Ooh ooh I do! By engaging in warfare the goal is to kill. Both parties were successful in achieveing this goal thus justifying their actions.

I got something Holy King didn't !! Awesome

 

[holy king]

that's the stupidest definition of "justified" imaginable. thanks for explaining.

 

[timtofly]

i do not comprehend this sentence.

What is war for? Is there a difference between defending one's self and conquering your next door neighbor? It seems to me that both sides were just fighting for no reason at all. Neither were defending and neither were gaining ground. All you are going to get is a bunch of dead people.

The title said whose side is justified, but the pole says who has the higher moral ground? There is a difference. In this scenario the end justifies the war. Plainly, just killing people for no reason at all.

 

[Glassfan]

It seems to me that the cartoonist is lampooning the increasingly dubious modern reasons for justifying war - "...ignoring certain parameters", "...establishing hegemony", and "...according to some metrics." These apear as overly-convoluted spin arguments for regime apologists, not actual reasons for fighting.

I agree with History Buff, neither side is justified.

 

[Dachs]

It seems to me that the cartoonist is lampooning the increasingly dubious modern reasons for justifying war - "...ignoring certain parameters", "...establishing hegemony", and "...according to some metrics." These apear as overly-convoluted spin arguments for regime apologists, not actual reasons for fighting.

I agree with History Buff, neither side is justified.

There's nothing modern about those reasons.

 

[RobAnybody]

Poll needs "neither".

Agree.

 

[SS-18 ICBM]

That's a cop-out. Pick the lesser evil.

There's nothing modern about those reasons.

Know any good books about market-oriented economies and globalization before the modern era?

 

[Crezth]

That's a cop-out. Pick the lesser evil.

Why pick either if they're both evil?

 

[SS-18 ICBM]

Dismissing them both as evil is easy and doesn't make for an interesting discussion.

 

[rugbyLEAGUEfan]

Hold on? Isn't the whole point of the cartoon a dismissal of the lame justifications on both sides???

 

[SS-18 ICBM]

Yes, and the point of this thread is which lame justification was the least crappy.