JohnRM
Don't make me destroy you
Defense against home intruders, foreign invasion, and against government, and to uphold the US Constitution.
Why do you support gun ownership?
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Xanikk999
History junkie
Abaddon said:
I agree with you.
If guns were outlawed except to police officers and other law enforcement.
Deadly crime rate would go down alot!!
Guns would still be available but illegally. But it would make a difference!
warpus
Sommerswerd asked me to change this
The 2nd amendment was created in order to allow "the people" to rise up against the governnment - should the government become to tyrannical.
This is the reason why the 2nd ammendment is outdated - You can't fight the U.S. military with handguns alone - that's just sheer lunacy.
This is the reason why the 2nd ammendment is outdated - You can't fight the U.S. military with handguns alone - that's just sheer lunacy.
Xanikk999 said:
I'm sorry that you are so biased, I don't know where to look for things that are pro-gun other than the gun magazines (Paper magazines that is
)that are lying aroung my house. I can't copy and paste one of them onto the screen can I?
Swiss Bezerker
Emperor
You deserved to be slapped so hard for that comment.Tycoon101 said:
Xanikk999
History junkie
Tycoon101 said:I'm sorry that you are so biased, I don't know where to look for things that are pro-gun other than the gun magazines (Paper magazines that is
I can't copy and paste one of them onto the screen can I?
I didnt mean to sound biased my apologies.
I just didnt feel like trying to prove it. So you are free to go ahead and prove me wrong if you can.
Look on the internet.
warpus said:
That's why each state can have, and should have a militia, as stated in the constitution. A typical civilian will not rise up against the government because they have a handgun. If they did, half of Washington D.C. would be up in flames by now.
Xanikk999
History junkie
Tycoon101 said:Why? I like guns, they make me feel very safe at home. I can't fight off an armed robber with a pole can I?
If you have a hunting knife or a guard dog i can tell you that you wont need a gun!
Dogs are very intimidating to burglars because at night if they bark they know it will wake up the house owners.
skadistic
Caomhanach
Xanikk999 said:
Wrong. The majority of gun deaths are from criminals that wouldn't care if having a gun was a crime to begin with shoting people. You people need to wake up out of your idealistic worlds and get a grip with reality.
John HSOG said:
I figured someone would say this. So, let's debunk this myth right out.
First off, I'm not after your guns. I'm pretty disinterested in the whole topic. Mostly I want to be protected from gun owning idiots who do things on accident or put me and my family at risk. That said.....
Having a civilian population that owns guns does not correlate to being able to overthrow an invader OR depose a tyrannical government. Look at both Iraq and Afghanistan for easy evidence of extremely well-armed populaces, but in neither place could they over-throw the unpopular governemts of Saddam or the Taliban.
Conversely, just in the last few years MANY countries have had revolutions that removed unpopular leaders that were entirely peaceful and without bloodshed. The Ukraine, for example.
So, let's just drop the whole silly idea where we think that owning guns will somehow help us fend off a billion Chinese invaders or keep our own government from brutalizing us, should they so decide.
Gun culture is entrenched in US society it seems, I can't see how you could ban them because banning them would probably lead to more crime than it would prevent, but I'm still not sure why the right to bear arms means you can stockpile vast armouries of weapons in the off chance you feel the need to overthrow the government? C'mon, a bunch of gun toting hard cases with enough firepower to take out a small SWAT/FBI army is stupid; to overthrow the governemnt you'd need the support of the army and they have enough weapons, it's kind of antiquated.
The right to bear arms shouldn't inlcude semi automatic weapons, it's not too hard to make them fully automatic from what I understand, and what situation can you envision for semi automatic firepower anyway, let alone fully automatic, defend you and your property maybe but there should be some reasoning behind gun ownership.
The US getting invaded Shane, yeah now that's likely
The right to bear arms shouldn't inlcude semi automatic weapons, it's not too hard to make them fully automatic from what I understand, and what situation can you envision for semi automatic firepower anyway, let alone fully automatic, defend you and your property maybe but there should be some reasoning behind gun ownership.
The US getting invaded Shane, yeah now that's likely
Kozmos
Jew Detective
Seburo meh,a Walther/H&K/Glock is what you get.
Speaking of guns, anyone else saw the Lord of War?
Speaking of guns, anyone else saw the Lord of War?
Abaddon
Deity
Tycoon101 said:
take your head out your ass, i mean per population. So it takes that into account.
Sidhe said:The US getting invaded Shane, yeah now that's likely
Um... if you read my post clearly, you'd see I agree w/ you. I'm making a point against one of the typical pro-gun arguments you hear over here all the time. Notice I used the phrase "silly idea" in reference to the notion of an invasion. Which, as you reinforce, is largely poppy-cock.
Abaddon
Deity
Xanikk999 said:
In the UK, we dont even have to arm our police.
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