Why do you support gun ownership?

[vyapti]

Guns are bad.

I don't own them and don't want my kids to own them either. Still, I focus on the spehere that I can control, my family. I would support any measure that reduces the number of guns produced.

Regardless of your arguement, a gun is an instrument designed to end a life. Fewer guns means fewer opportunities for an individual to become dead.

 

[bhsup]

I checked all of them but the last "I don't support..." option.

To put it even simpler, why not? It's my Constitutional right, and that's enough for me. I don't have to justify why I would want one or why I support the right, and frankly couldn't care less what anyone else thinks of the right. That may see callous, the utter blowing off of anyone else's contrary opinion regarding this subject, but that's the way it is. It's as integral to the basic rights of our nation as the freedom of speech and religion.

 

[Bugfatty300]

Gun culture is entrenched in US society it seems, I can't see how you could ban them because banning them would probably lead to more crime than it would prevent

Sidhe, disregarding the rest of your post, this is the most intelligent argument posted on this thread.

Guns in America are here to stay. Like it or not.

I will address your "full-auto" misconceptions later tonight maybe.

 

[Pyrite]

I support gun ownership because I have the inalienable right to self defence. In any situation, from any agressor, with no strings attached.
This is the government, politicians, police, fbi, cia, nfl, pmrc, random people that'd like to take my life, foreign invaders and any other person that threatens my personal safety. It's in my blood to resist any violent encroachment on my life and lifestyle with violence. Gun ownership is merely the evolution of natural possessions. We had hands to fight with, but now hands are no defense against some of our enemies. So we have to upgrade to guns. So what if a gun will not defeat the U.S. army, a chance at resistance is all I ask for.

 

[warpus]

I checked all of them but the last "I don't support..." option.

To put it even simpler, why not? It's my Constitutional right, and that's enough for me. I don't have to justify why I would want one or why I support the right, and frankly couldn't care less what anyone else thinks of the right. That may see callous, the utter blowing off of anyone else's contrary opinion regarding this subject, but that's the way it is. It's as integral to the basic rights of our nation as the freedom of speech and religion.

If the constitution was flawless - then you wouldn't have had amendments in the first place. Times change - constitutions change.

Blindly accepting a constitution - simply because it's a constitution - is pure idiocy.

 

[Xanikk999]

Wrong. The majority of gun deaths are from criminals that wouldn't care if having a gun was a crime to begin with shoting people. You people need to wake up out of your idealistic worlds and get a grip with reality.

Not true.

Theres a thing called FIRST DEGREE MURDER

and SECOND DEGREE MURDER!

first degree is planned out and is way more serious but much less common.

Second degree murder is the most common murder besides manslaughter and it usually involves a fit of rage or a assault gone wrong.

Second degree murderers would not plan to get an illegally owned gun to use for every day protection. A first degree murderer could get his hands on it but thats much less common.

What im saying is its much less likely for a second degree murderer to kill someone with a gun. And if the weapon was illegal less second degree murder and man slaughter would happen!

 

[Kozmos]

In the UK, we dont even have to arm our police.

*gasp* Do they know kung-fu? I think its the only way for the UK police not to get stabbed or shot to death.

 

[mrtn]

The merkin view of guns is one of the big reasons many Europeans view merkins as weird aliens.

 

[tombeef]

If the constitution was flawless - then you wouldn't have had amendments in the first place. Times change - constitutions change.

Blindly accepting a constitution - simply because it's a constitution - is pure idiocy.

If it wasn't for the fact that America's founding fathers are so glorified, and that they made amenments so hard to pass, the Constitution would have been radically different by now. It has been over 225 years since it was written. There is no way the writers of the Constitution could see so far into the future.

 

[bhsup]

If the constitution was flawless - then you wouldn't have had amendments in the first place. Times change - constitutions change.

Of course they do, that's why we have 27 amendments to ours. Best of luck, though, repealing the 2nd Amendment!

Blindly accepting a constitution - simply because it's a constitution - is pure idiocy.

I agree, and of course didn't say anything remotely like "because it's a Constitution". I said "it's a Constitutional right, which is vastly different. You can't compare not agreeing with certain aspects of a Constitution with wholly accepting and supporting specific rights guaranteed the citizenry in that Constitution. They're rights, not restrictions or authorization of oppression like slavery...just to opposite actually.

 

[Abaddon]

*gasp* Do they know kung-fu? I think its the only way for the UK police not to get stabbed or shot to death.

No, everyones too polite and busy sipping tea

No seriously, the average policeman walking the street has nothing more than a batton. He does have a stabproof vest on however.

If someones got a gun, then our cops gets armed.. but its a response, rather than a assumption they need guns.

 

[Pyrite]

"If it wasn't for the fact that America's founding fathers are so glorified, and that they made amenments so hard to pass, the Constitution would have been radically different by now. It has been over 225 years since it was written. There is no way the writers of the Constitution could see so far into the future"

Please, the government of this country doesn't even bother with that piece of paper you call a constitution anymore. The constitutional framers did make accurate predictions about the nature of governments to become more centralized and bureacratic and that is exactly why state's rights were so emphasized AND why the 2nd amendment was considered so important. The constitution don't mean squat.

 

[Pyrite]

"Of course they do, that's why we have 27 amendments to ours. Best of luck, though, repealing the 2nd Amendment! "
The 2nd amendment doesn't have to be repealed, it just has to be swamped with legislative garbage that makes it entirely impossible to make use of the protection therein entailed. Making something near impossible (in some states) is really just as good as destroying the right.

 

[Till]

The merkin view of guns is one of the big reasons many Europeans view merkins as weird aliens.

You made me look up merkin. Share my despair.

 

[Sidhe]

Um... if you read my post clearly, you'd see I agree w/ you. I'm making a point against one of the typical pro-gun arguments you hear over here all the time. Notice I used the phrase "silly idea" in reference to the notion of an invasion. Which, as you reinforce, is largely poppy-cock.

Yeah sorry I know I did read it but didn't make it clear I was agreeing with you totaly it wasn't directed towards you, in the interest of accuracy, I agree with your post completely hope that's clear and apologies.

 

[tombeef]

Please, the government of this country doesn't even bother with that piece of paper you call a constitution anymore. The constitutional framers did make accurate predictions about the nature of governments to become more centralized and bureacratic and that is exactly why state's rights were so emphasized AND why the 2nd amendment was considered so important. The constitution don't mean squat.

While the NSA phone taps may support this, if the government didn't care about the Constitution, they would have done something about it by now. The Constitution is still highly respected.

 

[mrtn]

You made me look up merkin. Share my despair.

Don't take it personally, anyone.

It's a habit from alt.fan.pratchett to refer to Americans as merkins.

 

[Kozmos]

No, everyones too polite and busy sipping tea

No seriously, the average policeman walking the street has nothing more than a batton. He does have a stabproof vest on however.

If someones got a gun, then our cops gets armed.. but its a response, rather than a assumption they need guns.

Where do they hold their guns?

I'm just having this weird image of a policman yelling "I'll club you to death!" while keeping a distance from the armed thug.

 

[Perfection]

I support gun ownership because animals need to die.

 

[tombeef]

I support gun ownership because animals need to die.

Humans are animals.