Will anything substantial happen to TPB and its ilk?

Mise said:
Try http://www.spotify.com/en/ for music.

It doesn't have everything (notably it doesn't have much independent label stuff), but it has most things, and is free. FREE!
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Yeah I have heard of that site but normally use Lastfm for my music. Both are excellent examples of how content can be put out there legally for people to use.

I do not mind waiting for a movie to come to the cinema or to DVD but it infuriates me when a TV show does not get shown over here for months after the US airing. While it might be breaking the law, I freely admit torrenting huge numbers of TV shows because of this.

A spotify/lastfm style site for TV shows (with no region locks) would stop me ever torrenting again. I would even be prepared to pay a (reasonable!) monthly fee for it!

I think Netflix in the USA offers a service like that (pay a certain amount per month and get unlimited films/tv shows) so I don't see any reason the UK can't get something like it.
 
Erik Mesoy said:
:lol::lol: - Have ISPs watch for piracy, depriving them of common carrier status. Might work if implemented. Will probably not be implemented as the value of common carrier status to ISPs is of magnitudinal order of size with value of internet and thus greater than value of music/film industry. (Note: US apparently special case here re: common carriers.)
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ISPs in Canada throttle the hell out of torrents. Bell Canada limits me to 30k/s down on torrent traffic (though my laptop gets unlimited speed for some reason :dunno: Rogers, a cable company, will shut down your service if you torrent too much. In both cases it just means you wait a day or two instead of a few hours.
 
Moggy said:
Yeah I have heard of that site but normally use Lastfm for my music. Both are excellent examples of how content can be put out there legally for people to use.

I do not mind waiting for a movie to come to the cinema or to DVD but it infuriates me when a TV show does not get shown over here for months after the US airing. While it might be breaking the law, I freely admit torrenting huge numbers of TV shows because of this.

A spotify/lastfm style site for TV shows (with no region locks) would stop me ever torrenting again. I would even be prepared to pay a (reasonable!) monthly fee for it!

I think Netflix in the USA offers a service like that (pay a certain amount per month and get unlimited films/tv shows) so I don't see any reason the UK can't get something like it.
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It would probly be even easier in the uk because of higher population density.
 
augurey said:
ISPs in Canada throttle the hell out of torrents. Bell Canada limits me to 30k/s down on torrent traffic (though my laptop gets unlimited speed for some reason :dunno: Rogers, a cable company, will shut down your service if you torrent too much. In both cases it just means you wait a day or two instead of a few hours.
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Hmm, I hadn't considered that - sort of a mix of 2 and 5. It doesn't seem to violate common carrier since it's by protocol instead of content.

Is your laptop by any chance using newly updated uTorrent and your other computer something else? Five minutes of googling suggests that uTorrent had an upgrade recently that would get around this by more encryption.
 
Erik Mesoy said:
Hmm, I hadn't considered that - sort of a mix of 2 and 5. It doesn't seem to violate common carrier since it's by protocol instead of content.

Is your laptop by any chance using newly updated uTorrent and your other computer something else? Five minutes of googling suggests that uTorrent had an upgrade recently that would get around this by more encryption.
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Oddly enough, this computer is running the latest uTorrent... the wife's laptop uses an old bittorrent.
 
Moggy said:
Yeah I have heard of that site but normally use Lastfm for my music. Both are excellent examples of how content can be put out there legally for people to use.

I do not mind waiting for a movie to come to the cinema or to DVD but it infuriates me when a TV show does not get shown over here for months after the US airing. While it might be breaking the law, I freely admit torrenting huge numbers of TV shows because of this.

A spotify/lastfm style site for TV shows (with no region locks) would stop me ever torrenting again. I would even be prepared to pay a (reasonable!) monthly fee for it!

I think Netflix in the USA offers a service like that (pay a certain amount per month and get unlimited films/tv shows) so I don't see any reason the UK can't get something like it.
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Last.fm stopped being free here this week (everywhere except US, UK and Germany IIRC). So much for that site being popular.
 
In a matter of decades, intellectual property will be a thing of the past. It's not an issue of whether or not it should be or if piracy destroys X industry, but the fact of the matter there is no practical way of enforcing them and probably never will be. Music and software companies are probably just going to have to find new ways to make and save money rather than selling CDs and online purchases.
 
kulade said:
In a matter of decades, intellectual property will be a thing of the past. It's not an issue of whether or not it should be or if piracy destroys X industry, but the fact of the matter there is no practical way of enforcing them and probably never will be. Music and software companies are probably just going to have to find new ways to make and save money rather than selling CDs and online purchases.
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Record companies make a much larger percentage of their income from concerts now, and stipulate in contracts that they get a cut of all of the artist's income, not just record sales.

Is the software industry as hard hit as the music industry? It seems the corporate world will provide a strong demand for many types of software, and going after business's that illegally download software seems feasible to me.
 
Moggy said:
Yeah I have heard of that site but normally use Lastfm for my music. Both are excellent examples of how content can be put out there legally for people to use.
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Both last.fm and that site tell me they're not available in my country. What am I supposed to do then? :p
 
Businesses that steal programs and use them to make a profit should be prosecuted.
 
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