Windows 8

[Tommy Vercetti]

How did you make it to Windows 7 instead of getting stuck on XP or 95?

Windows 7 did not change the whole interface of Windows. I don't like the Metro UI. Thats why I don't like Windows 8.

 

[Zelig]

The Metro UI is completely optional, if you don't open any Metro apps, you'll never see them - I never use Metro on my desktop. (Technically server - my home server runs Windows Server 2012, I've got no use for Metro apps on that.)

 

[Archbob]

The Metro UI is completely optional, if you don't open any Metro apps, you'll never see them - I never use Metro on my desktop. (Technically server - my home server runs Windows Server 2012, I've got no use for Metro apps on that.)

No, its not, you boot straight into it. You need to stop denying its the default UI. Your the only one who hasn't come to terms with this. Its the same layout/UI as the tablets. Trying to force-feed a tablet UI to desktop users is simply not acceptable.

 

[Zelig]

You boot to the start screen, which works exactly the same way as the start menu, not at all like a metro app.

I'm sorry you can't come to terms with the fact that Windows 8 is better than Windows 7.

 

[Archbob]

You boot to the start screen, which works exactly the same way as the start menu, not at all like a metro app.

I'm sorry you can't come to terms with the fact that Windows 8 is better than Windows 7.

It looks like crap and I can't fit as many icons into it. If they just removed it and made the default boot into desktop mode, it'd be great. Win 8's adoption rate is anemic right now. 1/4 of 7's and even less than vista 2 months after release. The public hates it.

 

[Zelig]

It still works the same as the start menu, there's no downside to it.

Provide a use case example of something Windows 7 does better.

 

[Archbob]

It still works the same as the start menu, there's no downside to it.

Provide a use case example of something Windows 7 does better.

It can't fit as many icon as neatly, that affects me a lot. Double clicking an icon is faster than bringing up the search thing. I use a lot of programs on a regular basis having all the small icons on the screen is important to me. The taskbar/crappy blocks won't do. Besides, it looks like crap. It might surprise you, but it visually looking like crap just makes it suck for most people.

 

[Zelig]

Do you know what a use case is?

 

[Iranon]

Actually no, the mouse is far more accurate than touch. I prefer a laptop over a tablet for just about everything.

Not sure if I understood your reply correctly... but I didn't mean users would be more efficient if they touched a screen inappropriately instead of waving a mouse about - that's similar but worse (trading away accuracy and flexibility, for being more intuitive for some uses)
They'd be more efficient if forced to give civilised text input (keyboard, or possibly something like shorthand recognition if we want fancy modern input devices).

All that was just a response to Zelig's earlier statement that the start screen was fine, just type instead of using a mouse. True in a way, but a mainstream operating system needs to be careful about forcing efficient habits on its users against their will: Imagine how users would react to a Ratpoison clone as the only available GUI.

 

[dutchfire]

Is there any telemetry data on what part of te program start-ups a user does are covered by his 10 (arbitrary number) most favourite programs? I'd expect it to be a lot, maybe like 80%.

 

[Zelig]

All that was just a response to Zelig's earlier statement that the start screen was fine, just type instead of using a mouse. True in a way, but a mainstream operating system needs to be careful about forcing efficient habits on its users against their will: Imagine how users would react to a Ratpoison clone as the only available GUI.

I'm in favour of dropping QWERTY from every OS and forcing everyone to learn something sensible like Dvorak, Colemak or QFMLWY.

 

[NBAfan]

It can't fit as many icon as neatly, that affects me a lot. Double clicking an icon is faster than bringing up the search thing. I use a lot of programs on a regular basis having all the small icons on the screen is important to me. The taskbar/crappy blocks won't do. Besides, it looks like crap. It might surprise you, but it visually looking like crap just makes it suck for most people.

You know you can right click and click "pin to start" to add and remove whatever you like or don't like from the start screen right?
I like actually like the new Start Menu. It's easier to customize. You can look at the old structure by clicking "all apps."

 

[Zelig]

You know you can right click and click "pin to start" to add and remove whatever you like or don't like from the start screen right?
I like actually like the new Start Menu. It's easier to customize. You can look at the old structure by clicking "all apps."

FAL prefers this:

 

[Tommy Vercetti]

FAL prefers this:

I like the old start menu better. If it ain't broke don't fix it

 

[Zelig]

I like the old start menu better. If it ain't broke don't fix it

DOS wasn't broke, why are you even using a GUI?

 

[Tommy Vercetti]

DOS wasn't broke, why are you even using a GUI?

That made sense. The Metro UI feels more like a downgrade, it is bulky and unwieldy. It changes so much with no way to revert back to the old way. Windows 8 sucks.

 

[Zack]

It changes so much with no way to revert back to the old way.

http://www.startisback.com/


Or, alternatively, this link.

 

[Zelig]

That made sense. The Metro UI feels more like a downgrade, it is bulky and unwieldy. It changes so much with no way to revert back to the old way. Windows 8 sucks.

That made sense. Windows 95 feels more like a downgrade, it is bulky and unwieldy. It changes so much no way to revert to the old way. Windows 95 sucks.

 

[Tommy Vercetti]

http://www.startisback.com/


Or, alternatively, this link.

Using third party programs don't count.

 

[Zack]

Why not? It's free and brings back the exact same Windows 7 start menu, which is exactly what you've been ing about.