Windows 8

[Tommy Vercetti]

Why not? It's free and brings back the exact same Windows 7 start menu, which is exactly what you've been ing about.

The fact you have use a third party software to do that ruins Windows 8. That SHOULD be included and be the default option. I am glad that idiot Steven Sinofsky is gone from Microsoft. All they need to do is fire most of the people who thought that Metro BS was a good idea. Steve Ballmer is another idiot. We really need Bill Gates back in charge.

 

[Zack]

The fact you have use a third party software to do that ruins Windows 8. That SHOULD be included and be the default option. I am glad that idiot Steven Sinofsky is gone from Microsoft. All they need to do is fire most of the people who thought that Metro BS was a good idea. Steve Ballmer is another idiot. We really need Bill Gates back in charge.

Why does it matter if it's third-party?

 

[Zelig]

The fact you have use a third party software to do that ruins Windows 8. That SHOULD be included and be the default option. I am glad that idiot Steven Sinofsky is gone from Microsoft. All they need to do is fire most of the people who thought that Metro BS was a good idea. Steve Ballmer is another idiot. We really need Bill Gates back in charge.

Bill Gates was pushing tablet PCs back in 2002.

 

[dutchfire]

You don't have to go further than the beginning of this thread to see people complaining how M$ sucks since it is increasingly closing down the ecosystem, and now we have people complaining about how third party software 'just isn't the same thing'.

 

[Tommy Vercetti]

http://tech.fortune.cnn.com/2012/09/21/windows-8-microsofts-new-coke/


http://www.informationweek.com/wind...ws-8-fizzling-time-for-windows-clas/240142618


Two articles that some of you should read. Windows 8 is kind of like New Coke was back in the 80s. If anything hopefully Microsoft will release a new more desktop centric OS with the start menu included that at least boots into desktop by default and hopefully just does not include Metro UI at all. Keep the two separate for people like me who hate that crap.

 

[Zack]

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=how+do+i+boot+straight+into+desktop+in+windows+8

 

[Zelig]

You hate what? What can you do in Windows 7 that you can't do equally well in Windows 8?

You just linked a couple of second-rate sites with sensationalist garbage targeted to maximize advertisement click-through. Pick absolutely any point you like from them, which you think is the strongest feature criticism of Windows 8, and I will thoroughly debunk it.

 

[Tommy Vercetti]

You hate what? What can you do in Windows 7 that you can't do equally well in Windows 8?

You just linked a couple of second-rate sites with sensationalist garbage targeted to maximize advertisement click-through. Pick absolutely any point you like from them, which you think is the strongest feature criticism of Windows 8, and I will thoroughly debunk it.

One of those was from CNN, while I don't always agree with CNN on a lot of stuff this I do agree with.

 

[Zelig]

One of those was from CNN, while I don't always agree with CNN on a lot of stuff this I do agree with.

You agree with what? Which specific thing does Windows 8 do worse than Windows 7?

 

[Tommy Vercetti]

You agree with what? Which specific thing does Windows 8 do worse than Windows 7?

The UI is not as easy to use. Don't post any other BS. Its a fact that it does not work as well.


http://www.dailytech.com/Windows+8+Usage+Sinks+Below+Vista+Levels/article29546.htm


http://blog.laptopmag.com/windows-8-adoption-rate-worse-than-vista

http://www.nbcnews.com/technology/gadgetbox/windows-8-adoption-rate-reportedly-worse-vista-1C7800805


A lot of people hate the Metro UI and the sales show it. You Windows 8 fanboys are only angry that your UI is a failure. All of you know our side will win in the long run. Many loyal Windows customers like myself see this as a betrayal by Microsoft trying to make Windows cool and hip. You have a clunky and unwieldy interface that is crap, you have to use a third party program to get something as simple as the damn start menu back. I almost consider that a middle finger from Microsoft. Windows 8 is as big of a blunder as New Coke, and a lot of people know how well that turned out. If you can't process that then I have just two words for you.

 

[Zelig]

The UI is not as easy to use. Don't post any other BS. Its a fact that it does not work as well.

So post an example of something that's difficult to do in Windows 8 then, if it's so bad, you should have an easy time of it.

A lot of people hate the Metro UI

People who haven't used it.

You Windows 8 fanboys are only angry that your UI is a failure.

It has the same UI as Windows 7, plus more. And my primary OS is Mac OS.

All of you know our side will win in the long run.

When's the last time Microsoft has ever reversed position on anything?

 

[Tommy Vercetti]

So post an example of something that's difficult to do in Windows 8 then, if it's so bad, you should have an easy time of it.




People who haven't used it.



It has the same UI as Windows 7, plus more. And my primary OS is Mac OS.



When's the last time Microsoft has ever reversed position on anything?

Some long time Windows users have trouble even finding something as basic as shutdown. That alone is a sign of failure. Its mostly designed for touch based platforms and not so much for someone using a mouse which sucks. I hate touchscreen and touchpad BS. Hopefully poor sales and customers complaining will make Microsoft realize the error of there ways like they did with Vista, which they wrote off as a lost cause and let people keep shipping computers with XP back in the day and do the same with Windows 8, allowing new PCs to be shipped with Windows 7. Another big limitation is multitasking. Hopefully they make more desktop centric OSes again. Metro just sucks.

 

[aimeeandbeatles]

Its a fact that it does not work as well.

Actually, that's an opinion, and I'm saying this as someone who's not all that thrilled with the UI changes themselves (based on about 5 minutes of trying it out in an electronics store today; I was just curious. I was actually buying a replacement mouse because I stepped on the one I was using because I was an idiot).

 

[Zelig]

Some long time Windows users have trouble even finding something as basic as shutdown.

You push the power button on your computer.

Its mostly designed for touch based platforms and not so much for someone using a mouse which sucks.

No, the desktop in Windows 8 is better than the desktop in Widows 7, without touch.

Another big limitation is multitasking. Hopefully they make more desktop centric OSes again.

The desktop has no limitations on multitasking that Windows 7 does not have.

Metro just sucks.

Good thing you can use the desktop just as well as Windows 7.

 

[sophie]

http://tech.fortune.cnn.com/2012/09/21/windows-8-microsofts-new-coke/


http://www.informationweek.com/wind...ws-8-fizzling-time-for-windows-clas/240142618


Two articles that some of you should read. Windows 8 is kind of like New Coke was back in the 80s. If anything hopefully Microsoft will release a new more desktop centric OS with the start menu included that at least boots into desktop by default and hopefully just does not include Metro UI at all. Keep the two separate for people like me who hate that crap.

People hated xp when it first came out. Most reviews called it an unmitigated disaster and a hideous departure from the far superior Windows 98. Many predicted it was doomed to failure as nobody was going to switch off of 98.

Vista actually sold extremely well, despite slow sales and bad pr at the start. Again, OS sales have little to nothing to do with the quality of the OS.

 

[Tommy Vercetti]

People hated xp when it first came out. Most reviews called it an unmitigated disaster and a hideous departure from the far superior Windows 98. Many predicted it was doomed to failure as nobody was going to switch off of 98.

Vista actually sold extremely well, despite slow sales and bad pr at the start. Again, OS sales have little to nothing to do with the quality of the OS.

A lot of people hate the Metro UI and want it gone from Windows.

 

[Zelig]

A lot of people hate the Metro UI and want it gone from Windows.

These are either crazy people or people who don't understand Windows.

Please explain a single thing that the Metro UI prevents you from doing as well in Windows 8 as you're able to do in Windows 7.

 

[Terxpahseyton]

No, most of the Windows 8 hate isn't nearly that nuanced, that's legitimate, but most people are just RAAAARAGH CHANGE.

It makes me glad you say that But see that is what IMO is subconsciously at work here. Even if people don't articulate it as nuanced and rather go with "RAAAARAGH". What RAAARAGH carries is the emotion that Windows 8 takes a piss on what desktop users need for the sake of metro which means for sake of trying to squeeze more money out of people in the vein Apple successfully does. Which means Apps and a coherent virtual environment for tablet, PC and phone (and mp3/small-video-player in the case of apple).
You have people complaining that metro is the default start-screen. That is exactly what I describe. Which is Microsoft's effort to enforce Metro onto them for the sake of profit hopes. And fully rightfully, desktop users reject this try as not tailored to their actual consumer wishes. As a symbol of taking a piss at their consumer wishes. Does it matter if that piss is a piss in comparison to Windows 7 or what Windows 8 could have been? It is a piss and recognized as such.

Please explain a single thing that the Metro UI prevents you from doing as well in Windows 8 as you're able to do in Windows 7.

That is rather easy, actually. In Windows 7, through the start-button, you have easy access to all relevant system configurations. In Windows 8, you need to open metro and there search for the demanded system configuration. The default system configuration is also in metro and is exceedingly dumped-down.
Sure, you can get the job done with a little effort, but Windows 7 offers a far more comfortable way to do so. Why does Windows 8 not? To get you to use Metro...

 

[Zack]

A lot of people hate the Metro UI and want it gone from Windows.

A lot of people hate <insert anything about any OS ever> and want it gone from <said OS>.

 

[Terxpahseyton]

Subject <insert verb> <insert object>.
Predictability. It is all I see.