Would it be better if God would exist?

Would it be better if God would exist?


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Well, this ain't a problem for me...and I definately think the world would stink (if it existed at all) without God

Why would it stink? :confused:
 
death and then it's over

no progress

we don't get to continue to grow, learn, and experience joy for eternity

To have our growth stunted after a meager 70 or so years would be a tragedy for beings with such eternal potential
 
It would be better if Soloralism existed, because then I'd be a kickass Paladin and savior of the world.
 
death and then it's over

no progress

we don't get to continue to grow, learn, and experience joy for eternity

To have our growth stunted after a meager 70 or so years would be a tragedy for beings with such eternal potential

So?

Humanity doesn't die as a whole. The fact that you only have 70 years of life means that you have the ability to live life to its fullest instead of wasting time. You can imprint society and leave a legacy, as well as work toward the betterment of mankind. The purpose of life is then simply what you make of it.

The fact that you don't realize that these things are possible without religion only shows that you use religion as a crutch.
 
So?

Humanity doesn't die as a whole. The fact that you only have 70 years of life means that you have the ability to live life to its fullest instead of wasting time. You can imprint society and leave a legacy, as well as work toward the betterment of mankind. The purpose of life is then simply what you make of it.

The fact that you don't realize that these things are possible without religion only shows that you use religion as a crutch.

No it doesn't. I fully realize what can be done on earth with one life, but that ability is still limited. With an eternal lifetime to live and grow we can achieve so much more, and make mankind infinitely better than we could in a mere 70 years.

Assuming I'm ignorant and don't see things as possible simply because I don't mention them isn't such a great debate tactic ;)
 
No it doesn't. I fully realize what can be done on earth with one life, but that ability is still limited. With an eternal lifetime to live and grow we can achieve so much more, and make mankind infinitely better than we could in a mere 70 years.
The thing is that humanity is much, much more than a single person. We live to procreate and spread our genes, to teach our children what we have learned in life and to keep the species thriving. The time is limited, yes, but we can do so much in that time if you make the most out of it. And even if a single person doesn't do much, he still contributes to society as a whole and benefits it.

A single individual is limited, but humanity is potentially immortal if we get things right. By focusing on the life we are in now, the potential to perfect humanity in this life can increase, and we may indeed as a species someday approximate something that could be considered God.

Assuming I'm ignorant and don't see things as possible simply because I don't mention them isn't such a great debate tactic ;)
Plenty of people can live perfectly well in having both a finite life and a lack of ultimate purpose, so my point still stands - it's not necessary and thus a crutch. Now, that doesn't mean that religion is a crutch as a whole - just that it's not a good defense against being a humanist, considering the fact that secular humanism is a well defined philosophy.
 
I really think my life wouldn't be all that different.
 
I say it would. But, as we all know, how hard we even want something to exist, belief alone can't change everything. Sad, but true. :sad:

Yes or no, have you stopped beating your wife?
 
Given the huge number of people who believe in hell after death, I'd think that 70 years and then oblivion is a superior world.

And we can make that world better by defeating death, it's a rather simple formula. The world got better when we found cures to other ailments, too.
 
Doesn't matter whether we are or not. It's god we're discussing.

Yeah but if theres even a remote possibility that we're the stupid ones, and not God, then maybe we shouldnt be too quick to pass judgement on him, and keep our options open.
 
death and then it's over

no progress

we progress as a species :)

we don't get to continue to grow, learn, and experience joy for eternity

boo hoo

To have our growth stunted after a meager 70 or so years would be a tragedy for beings with such eternal potential

It is a tragedy, but unfortunately that's reality.

You have a limited amount of time & energy, use it well :)
 
You'd think that realising that there's a natural limit to the human life span would motivate people to overcome it. I can understand that in the past there was motivation to describe death as a 'good thing', because of its ubiquity. However, these days we can see hope on the horizon, reasonable hope.
 
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