Would the US/NATO/EU/Russia go to war over Formosa/Ukraine/Estonia/Belarus etc

[Gooblah]

Taiwan declares independence. It becomes very clear the PRC will attack them unless they renounce it. If it came down to it, would the US go to war with China over Taiwan?

No. We have too many trade links and have to work with China on issues like Iran, Sudan, and North Korea.

Following an incident of some sort, Russian tanks enter Estonian land. Would the US and EU go to war with Russia to defend Estonia? would they try and seek a compromise? Would they roll over? how about if the US announces its staying out of it, what would the EU do if it had to go it alone?

The EU? No. Nato (and by extension the United States), yes; it's obligated to do so by the many treaties that bind it together. However, certain nations (Germany and Italy in particular) would be wary of sending troops, since Russia has their energy balls in a death grip.

The EU and/or Nato invades Belarus for some reason. as Belarus is part of the CIS and the Union State of Russia and Belarus, Russia is obliged to come to her aid. would they?

Yeah, duh. There are actually Russians in Belarus, not South Ossetians, so such an attack by Russia would be justified, I guess.

 

[GinandTonic]

Without scenarios this thread is kind of pointless. As it stands the powers would go to war for those minor allies, which is why the other powers wont invade in the first place. The hows and whys of how the status quos were upset would define what the reactions would be.

 

[zjl56]

It is definitely not in the US' best interest to see an independent Taiwan. So if that island does declare independence, it will necessarily be without approval from the US, and the US probably will not provide much of a support. The main use of Taiwan is to provide an obstacle, or a drag that dampens the speed at which China rises to superpower status. An independent Taiwan doesn't provide such a drag and hence has no value to us.

So far it has been in our interest to keep afloat the Kumitang Government... But I do not get the part that Taiwan is an obstacle to Taiwan. While the governments hate each other, both nations have done extensive trading and opening up to one another in the past quarter century. If Taiwan were to declare independence in the near future, the PRC would grumble and saber rattle, but they would not risk relations with the U.S and EU over a nation of twenty million.

As for European examples: if Estonia is invaded, then all of us are obligated to throw every thing we have at them to honor our NATO and E.U treaty agreements. I could see Russia going to war over Ukraine or Belarus, but the Georgia incident has reminded them how dependent their economy is on investors. Just a few days into the invasion and Russian stocks dropped dramatically, and the government had to intervene quickly in order to stop a full blown burst.

 

[Mercenary82]

Well if Russia did invade the Baltic's, even if the US and NATO did respond, the bulk of the ground forces would have to come from Europe since I don't see us diverting any troops from Iraq/Afghanistan for this. I'm not to sure if the Europeans would have the resolve to face Russia on their home turf in a situation like this, so NATO could possibly collapse.

 

[red_elk]

I just want to gauge how serously people think the big boys would take their obligations if it really came down to the crunch. So forget how unlikely these scenarios are, or any technical military errors I may have made lets just ask ourselves if they did somehow come to pass, what would happen.

Taiwan/Formosa declares independence. It becomes very clear the PRC will attack them unless they renounce it. If it came down to it, would the US go to war with China over Taiwan?

Following an incident of some sort, Russian tanks enter Estonian land. Would the US and EU go to war with Russia to defend Estonia? would they try and seek a compromise? Would they roll over? how about if the US announces its staying out of it, what would the EU do if it had to go it alone?

The EU and/or Nato invades Belarus for some reason. as Belarus is part of the CIS and the Union State of Russia and Belarus, Russia is obliged to come to her aid. would they?

About Belarus - we have a military alliance:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collective_Security_Treaty_Organisation
(Symbol reminds me something...)

 

[Shekwan]

About Belarus - we have a military alliance:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collective_Security_Treaty_Organisation
(Symbol reminds me something...)

Yeah but it's this crowd I'd be really worried about.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shanghai_Cooperation_Organisation

 

[red_elk]

Yeah but it's this crowd I'd be really worried about.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shanghai_Cooperation_Organisation

Shanghai treaty is far from military alliance yet. Too different countries, too different interests, etc. CSTO is pretty much a defensive alliance already, I'm quite confident that attack on Belarus would be considered as attack on Russia.
BTW, attack on Ukraine probably too, though they are not a member of CSTO.

 

[Winner]

Well if Russia did invade the Baltic's, even if the US and NATO did respond, the bulk of the ground forces would have to come from Europe since I don't see us diverting any troops from Iraq/Afghanistan for this. I'm not to sure if the Europeans would have the resolve to face Russia on their home turf in a situation like this, so NATO could possibly collapse.

If the political decision was made, I see no reason why the European forces shouldn't carry out the orders. Most of the officers have been trained to face the Russians anyway.