warpus
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Would you spank your child?
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I think the main problem with these threads is that too many constantly auto-strawman the other side of the argument.
many people against spanking often equate it with beating up your kids (I admit, I've been guilty of this as well).
on the other side, proponents of corporal punishment often equate not spanking the kids with anti-authoritan child-rearing.
personally, I will not spank my kids, but don't think some mild spanking would harm them on the long run. of course, if you include paddling and useing a belt, I think it's a bad idea.
Oh and Lucy: Just because I won't spank my kids doesn't mean that they'll be the ones yelling in the cinema just as little as if I spanked them they'd automatically not yell in cinemas.
many people against spanking often equate it with beating up your kids (I admit, I've been guilty of this as well).
on the other side, proponents of corporal punishment often equate not spanking the kids with anti-authoritan child-rearing.
personally, I will not spank my kids, but don't think some mild spanking would harm them on the long run. of course, if you include paddling and useing a belt, I think it's a bad idea.
Oh and Lucy: Just because I won't spank my kids doesn't mean that they'll be the ones yelling in the cinema just as little as if I spanked them they'd automatically not yell in cinemas.
Actually, that's completely false.
People tends to respect more power than blackmail.
You wouldn't see the archetypes of the sexy and powerful hero against the sniveling corrupter if it wasn't the case
And the powerful villain? Because that's just what parents can turn themselves into.
I don't see people trying other discipline before they resort to spanking. Okay, once they have exhausted every other non-violent option, I might consider their case for hitting a child, but until that time, the line can be drawn another way.
Well, you know, it would make more sense that hitting a child, which is what he is proposing.
Akka
Moody old mage.
Oh yeah, parents will be villains with a spank !
You're pretty ridiculous here.
Time to learn to read, because it's been stated several time that spanking is a tool to be used when the child doesn't listen to vocal commands.
Actually it doesn't, because you can punish a dog simply by grasping his neck and barely shaking it. It's punishment to the dog, and it doesn't require hitting.
And "spanking" isn't physical assault, it's not punching, it's not kicking. Or you really have no idea what a physical assault is.
Never bump into a door, you'll be traumatized for life.
I'm pretty sure I've been over this, but just because it isn't physical assault according to the law doesn't make it not so. The intention is to cause a degree of pain; otherwise it is useless. Yes, it does not involve long term physical damage, but it is physical and it an assault nonetheless.
As for making parents into villains, well, wouldn't you say it is a lot more likely to do that than turn them into 'sexy and powerful' heroes?
As for spanking only being a tool for when children will not accept other disciplinary measures, do you really think that that is how it is solely implemented?
And, I might add, your signature seems pertinent.
As for making parents into villains, well, wouldn't you say it is a lot more likely to do that than turn them into 'sexy and powerful' heroes?
As for spanking only being a tool for when children will not accept other disciplinary measures, do you really think that that is how it is solely implemented?
And, I might add, your signature seems pertinent.
warpus
Sommerswerd asked me to change this
You know, by equating spanking with physical assault, you are making a mockery of all the victims of domestic abuse.
Yared
That Guy
I personally would try to make the kid see exactly why the things s/he did was wrong instead of just spanking him. Teach them that their actions have consequences, etc.
Now, the thing you have to keep in mind is that the kids have to learn bad behavior from other kids.
Now, the thing you have to keep in mind is that the kids have to learn bad behavior from other kids.
If I equated small bar fights with physical assault, would I be making a mockery of all those who have had their skulls bashed in?
The term is broad, and I'm using it that way (correctly) to make a point.
Akka
Moody old mage.
You are, again, ridiculous.
The difference between a slap on the wrist and a beating is the INTENSITY and MOTIVE.
Equating a symbolic punishment with assault is dumb.
You could as well say that whistling at a girl is rape
It's unlikely to do either. Rare spanks will certainly not turn people into villains (the very idea is laughably ridiculous), and it's not especially heroic either.
My point was that people respect more authority than blackmailing, but you probably didn't grasp the concept.
There is no magic recipe for being a good parents, nor for all children.
Some will never even need a spank and will be calm by nature. Some others will be reckless but able to be reasoned with. Some will be generally quiet but may enter into tantrum that can be stopped only through enforced authority, and the like.
My point is that spanking once upon a time is a perfectly valid tool to enforce authority when it's needed, and that's neither a "use everytime" method, neither Devil's brutality at work.
People not able to see the difference between spanking a kid and real violence should question themselve about the working of their brain.
I might add that, for people who have trouble to read and are a bit dense, I already pointed at it previously :And, I might add, your signature seems pertinent.
PS : before any idiot start to use it to "prove" I'm just a brute : my sig IS just for laughs, thanks.
bigdog5994
Lady Day
no but his father is and i agree with his methods which include just about all forms of punishment and spanking as a last resort
the wost ive ever done to him was slap him on the back of head once when we were at this neighborhood party and he said "ow my f***ing leg hurts"
god i love that boy
LucyDuke
staring at the clock
Oh, don't be silly.
I wasn't suggesting corporal punishment is necessary to rear a child, I was responding to "you'll be a terrible parent". Whether or not a kid is a little jackass in public is the first way I judge its parents, I figured it relevant.
Akka
Moody old mage.
No problem.What's important is not that you think very hard, it's that you hit very hard.
Oh, don't be silly.
I'm never silly
Ok, guess I just interpreted it the wrong way
What I meant (and it seems you as well) was that many people seem to judge parenting on little things (and your right, corporal punishment alone won't make anybody a bad parent).
Parenting is a lot more than just whether or not you spank your kid, and what's wrong with most kids these days has nothing to do with too little or too much spanking
Yared
That Guy
Spank -> Hit kid on butt.
Time Out -> Locked in a room so that the kid will calm down (like if it's really angry).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_time-out
Time Out -> Locked in a room so that the kid will calm down (like if it's really angry).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_time-out
Richard Cribb
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No I wouldn't and fortunately it is illegal where I live.
If I want to be violent I'll rather find somebody on my own size.
MobBoss
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If you are fair about it you do. Its just like any other punishment. If you gave them time out unfairly, they wouldnt respect you for that either...
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