Yet another victim of a perceived thug ends up in jail

[Berzerker]

All that "evidence" is the gospel according to George. Why not believe the gospel of the killer here?

I dont need Zimmerman's statements, the evidence was his head (and everything else). What alleged inconsistency negates it all and makes Zimmerman a murderer?

they didn't find a shotgun
if I had a shotgun and somebody was shooting at me, I'd be shooting back
if I had a shootout with gangsters, I'd find the cops, not run away

 

[JollyRoger]

We've already hashed out all of Zimmerman's inconsistant statements and reasons he brought on his ass kicking in the three threads related to his crime.

As to the present case, just because no shotgun has been found does not negate the gospel according to the defendant.

 

[RobAnybody]

Everyone who listens to Gangnam style deserves to be shoot for bad taste.

Dude, teenagers stopped listening to Gangnam Style in August, long before mainstream America even heard of it. Circumstantial evidence for "shoot" at best.

 

[Berzerker]

I do. It's within Martin's right to question why someone is following them. Zimmerman saying "no" is not a reasonable response when you've been caught red-handed following someone for a long distance. There gets to a point where it's obvious the two of you aren't heading the same direction for a similar destination.

The right to question is not a right to attack, but "no" was not his response, it was "what are you doing here".

 

[Berzerker]

We've already hashed out all of Zimmerman's inconsistant statements and reasons he brought on his ass kicking in the three threads related to his crime.

As to the present case, just because no shotgun has been found does not negate the gospel according to the defendant.

No shotgun was found, were wounds found on Zimmerman's head? One gospel is supported by the evidence, the other is not. Where are these inconsistencies? I'd settle for one with any relevancy.

 

[JollyRoger]

Now we are getting somewhere - you should not take statements made by criminal defendants as gospel.

 

[RobAnybody]

Here's a novel idea, why don't we just wait and see? We have courts and juries for a reason, and establishing a finding of fact about the events is what they do. It's better than speculating blindly.

Why do you want to kill all internet forums everywhere?!? You = anti-Al Gore

 

[Formaldehyde]

Dude, teenagers stopped listening to Gangnam Style in August, long before mainstream America even heard of it. Circumstantial evidence for "shoot" at best.

The number of times it was played at college football games yesterday where it was rarely heard before tends to dispute that, along with the rising number of Youtube views.

No shotgun was found, were wounds found on Zimmerman's head? One gospel is supported by the evidence, the other is not. Where are these inconsistencies? I'd settle for one with any relevancy.

You still haven't explained how Martin supposedly chased down and confronted Zimmerman as he was running away and trying to get back to where he was staying, according to that very same "evidence".

It is quite clear who confronted whom, as well as who had a hidden firearm which was the difference to both of them living until the police arrived a few seconds later. The only real question is will justice be served.

 

[Berzerker]

Now we are getting somewhere - you should not take statements made by criminal defendants as gospel.

umm...duh? How did Zimmerman lie? Where are these inconsistencies? Why are these cases comparable?

You still haven't explained how Martin supposedly chased down and confronted Zimmerman as he was running away and trying to get back to where he was staying, according to that very same "evidence".

It is quite clear who confronted whom, as well as who had a hidden firearm which was the difference to both of them living until the police arrived a few seconds later. The only real question is will justice be served.

Have you seen a map of the area? Jolly posted one and it shows how Zimmerman got ahead of Martin, turned around to walk back toward his truck, and still have Martin walk up behind him just like he said. And based on Martin's conversation with his girlfriend, it was Martin who identified Zimmerman and approached him to ask questions. Zimmerman didn't approach Martin, y'all got that wrong too.

 

[Formaldehyde]

Have you seen a map of the area? Jolly posted one and it shows how Zimmerman got ahead of Martin, turned around to walk back toward his truck, and still have Martin walk up behind him just like he said. And based on Martin's conversation with his girlfriend, it was Martin who identified Zimmerman and approached him to ask questions. Zimmerman didn't approach Martin, y'all got that wrong too.

You missed the point as you continue to do. If Zimmerman hadn't been stalking Martin "because they always get away" none of this would have happened, even if the map JR posted and the theory behind it is accurate which we do not know.

You can't "stand your ground" by harassing and pursuing innocent teens contrary to even the specific statement of the police dispatcher to stop and desist, much less basic common sense. Even if Zimmerman is somehow acquitted in a court of law, it was his sheer stupidity coupled with the patently absurd concealed carry and "stand your ground" laws which caused the death of an innocent teen who was just minding his own business.

 

[Berzerker]

You cant ignore the map and insist on making claims that contradict both it and Zimmerman's statements. Zimmerman stopped pursuing Martin when the dispatcher told him to stop (listen to the tape), thats when he and the dispatcher began discussing a location for Zimmerman to meet the cops. He turned to walk back to his truck while looking for an address (remember that? you brought it up as evidence Zimmerman was lying - you were wrong about that too) and Martin came up from behind and "confronted" him.

Martin was the aggressor, y'all convicted Zimmerman for the "crime" of following him and getting in the way. Its open season on neighborhood watch volunteers... Problem is, had Zimmerman not killed Martin and the latter pummeled him into a permanent vegetative state, how could you support prosecuting Martin? Y'all think he was right to attack Zimmerman. You guys condemn "stand your ground" while arguing Martin was standing his ground, go figure...

 

[Formaldehyde]

Zimmerman was obviously just a few feet from his vehicle when the dispatcher told him to mind his own business instead of relentlessly running after a scared innocent teen in the dead of night. But he clearly ignored the dispatcher and continued to pursue Martin instead under the absurd pretext he was looking for a house number in the back yard where none exist.

And Zimmerman was clearly the "aggressor" which means he obviously wasn't "standing his ground". He belongs in prison just like all the other wannabe cop vigilante killers. The only real question at this stage based on what we now know is whether justice will be served or not.

 

[Berzerker]

Why is it obvious? it aint, not even logical - the dispatcher heard Zimmerman running and breathing heavy and thats when he asked if he was following and told him to stop. Zimm may be out of shape but he wasn't huffing and puffing from running a few feet - obviously. Listen to the tape, read the transcript of his 911 call. Zimmerman stopped when the dispatcher told him to and you're still repeating that nonsense.

 

[MobBoss]

Zimmerman was obviously just a few feet from his vehicle when the dispatcher told him to mind his own business instead of relentlessly running after a scared innocent teen in the dead of night. But he clearly ignored the dispatcher and continued to pursue Martin instead under the absurd pretext he was looking for a house number in the back yard where none exist.

Actually, the dispatcher tape shows Zimmerman did listen to the dispatcher and was returning to his vehicle when he was jumped.

And Zimmerman was clearly the "aggressor" which means he obviously wasn't "standing his ground".

Thats not 'obvious' in this case at all. Which is why it is so controversial.

He belongs in prison just like all the other wannabe cop vigilante killers.

Do you mind if we have a trial first?

The only real question at this stage based on what we now know is whether justice will be served or not.

So, in your own mind you've already convicted him and you know better than a jury that actually hears all the evidence?

 

[ace99]

Why do you want to kill all internet forums everywhere?!? You = anti-Al Gore

My mistake, carry on blindly speculating and then be outraged when whatever outcome that you dislike results! It's the Ahmurikan way!

 

[Formaldehyde]

Actually, the dispatcher tape shows Zimmerman did listen to the dispatcher and was returning to his vehicle when he was jumped.

"Actually" it apparently shows nothing of the sort. The location of Zimmerman's vehicle, the timing of the police calls from Zimmerman, as well as the 911 calls from others, the location Zimmerman claimed that Martin was at when he started running, the site where the killing occurred, and the arrival time of the police seemingly makes this just another lie that Zimmerman claims to be true, despite all the evidence to the contrary. Lies which you are using as the basis for your own continuing speculations.

Even Zimmerman admitted that he did not immediately return to his vehicle, but he supposedly went looking for an apartment number in the backyard where none actually exist, which just happened to be where Martin was.

All these inconsistencies is why Martin was arrested and charged with the crime of second degree murder. Perhaps you continue to overlook all this in your own rush to judgement of yet another atrocity which should have never occurred?

Thats not 'obvious' in this case at all. Which is why it is so controversial.

It is only "controversial" mainly to a handful of Fox News viewers who try to rationalize and defend such atrocities quite frequently. People who actually claim that this matter is the fault of the virtually non-existent "liberal media".

Do you mind if we have a trial first?

Good question. Why don't you ask that of your own sheer speculation regarding this matter? Why do you continue to persist with these obvious double standards?