2015 State of the Union Address

[Wolfbeckett]

Eh, not particularly seeing why the States need to be involved either, but at least that wouldn't be crapping on the Constitution.

But... you're missing the general point of my first post. Obama was just rattling off this huge list of "Hey, we should have the federalies give you all this crap because that's what the government should be there to do. Give you stuff! FOR FREE! Nobody pays for it, it's just magical free crap we want to give you because, you know, we care!"

What. the. Feldercarp?! How about instead the feds just stay the hell out of my life?

Hey now, be far. Don't accuse the democrats of stuff they aren't guilty of. They don't want to give you stuff for free that nobody paid for. They want to give you stuff for free that rich people paid for. Increasing spending while cutting taxes is the Republican line .

 

[bhsup]

@Antilogic: No, that's silliness. The USD is the legal tender in these United States.

 

[Kaitzilla]

Now that community college is free, they should just tack it onto the end of highschool and make kids stay in school until they are 20!

 

[Antilogic]

@Antilogic: No, that's silliness. The USD is the legal tender in these United States.

Indeed. I have no problem with the government passing legislation that mandates compensation in dollar values and vacation/sick days, etc.

Used to be you didn't have either, so you had companies issuing their own currency and paying workers with it, which could only be redeemed in company stores. Of course, they could fix the prices to take out as much as they wanted from the workers even after paying them what appeared to be a competitive headline wage.

 

[Light Cleric]

Every SOTU I've watched, except maybe the 2002 one after 9/11, has not felt like what I thought it's supposed to. Bunch of grandstanding and potshots and this one was no different from what I've seen. At least we didn't have any of the dumbass prom date stuff we did in 2011 where a bunch of people pretended they didn't hate each other and acted like teenagers.

It was just kind of...wrong to see Obama crow about having won both his elections. Seeing a lame duck president do that just seems silly.

 

[Wolfbeckett]

Well, in his defense, he only did that after a few clapped about his "I don't have any more elections to run" comment. I thought it was a hell of a good comeback personally.

 

[Kyriakos]

I recall that vid of W, who failed even to correctly call his speech 'the state of the union'.*

Good going. No wonder Obama easily seemed to be far better to that posotus. And what followed was a different version of W anyway. Hope the next president is useful to the US and the world, but i doubt it will happen.

*"This is [...] my speech to the nation"? Uh, whatever.

 

[onejayhawk]

Should the federal government mandate you should be paid wages in dollars?

It doesn't. I'm not sure where you are going with this.

@Antilogic: No, that's silliness. The USD is the legal tender in these United States.

One of them. There have been many others and nothing saying it has to be the only one. What it does say is that you are required to accept it as valid.

Indeed. I have no problem with the government passing legislation that mandates compensation in dollar values and vacation/sick days, etc.

Used to be you didn't have either, so you had companies issuing their own currency and paying workers with it, which could only be redeemed in company stores. Of course, they could fix the prices to take out as much as they wanted from the workers even after paying them what appeared to be a competitive headline wage.

Oh. So you did know about company and military script. Sorry. There was about an hour between when I started the post and when I finished. I didn't catch the followup.

J

 

[Antilogic]

You could actually quote the passage where I explain where I was going with that in response to your own question, ya know.

 

[sophie]

Every SOTU I've watched, except maybe the 2002 one after 9/11, has not felt like what I thought it's supposed to. Bunch of grandstanding and potshots and this one was no different from what I've seen. At least we didn't have any of the dumbass prom date stuff we did in 2011 where a bunch of people pretended they didn't hate each other and acted like teenagers.

It was just kind of...wrong to see Obama crow about having won both his elections. Seeing a lame duck president do that just seems silly.

That's because the State of the Union is a boring pointless exercise in political buzzwording and not actually saying anything of importance or interest, nor in conveying an actual identifiable point. Which, by the way, is why the response is always nonsensical and pointless. How can you be on point in replying to something which had no point to begin with?

http://gawker.com/the-state-of-the-union-is-dumb-hacks-writing-garbage-sp-1680681848

 

[Wolfbeckett]

I recall that vid of W, who failed even to correctly call his speech 'the state of the union'.*

Good going. No wonder Obama easily seemed to be far better to that posotus. And what followed was a different version of W anyway. Hope the next president is useful to the US and the world, but i doubt it will happen.

*"This is [...] my speech to the nation"? Uh, whatever.

The next president won't be any more useful, and anyone who thinks they SHOULD be more useful is hugely overestimating how much power the president really has. Congress are the ones that realistically hold most of the cards, the only way a president really becomes the main power is if we get someone who can somehow manipulate congress into giving them what they want.

 

[onejayhawk]

I have not heard anything good about this speach from anyone.

Liberal Friends--Where was this in 2009? We could have done it then. Now we have no chance.

Conservative friends--President NO-bama. I have to admit, that was cute.

J

 

[bhsup]

Liberal Friends--Where was this in 2009? We could have done it then. Now we have no chance.

Exactly. Did Obama forget that his party just got stomped last November? How, exactly, does he plan to push all of this pinko stuff through a GOP Congress?

 

[Grisu]

Is that George Washington?

My first thought was Captain Mauser

 

[Camikaze]

Eh, not particularly seeing why the States need to be involved either, but at least that wouldn't be crapping on the Constitution.

In relation to sick leave (which I was shocked to find out you don't have as a mandated thing?), didn't Obama specifically say that he's looking to help states implement it?

 

[warpus]

So Americans, what is the state of the union? Good? Bad? So-so? Stronger than 4 years ago? Weaker?

I didn't watch the speech, when it came on I figured it would be full of rhetoric and sentences that start with the words: "Folks, ", so I went to my room to play video games instead.

 

[bhsup]

Rebecca and Jack went through a rough patch, but they're fine now.

 

[warpus]

Jack Bauer?

Is the state of the union address a thing that Americans invented? Or is it done elsewhere? I swear I've seen a state of the union address in the context of a company or corporation.. I think.. maybe it was all a dream.

 

[bhsup]

It has been a Constitutionally mandated thing since, well since the Constitution was adopted.

I don't know Rebecca and Jack's last name, sorry. Obama may have mentioned it, but if he did, I don't remember it.

 

[warpus]

It seems that the EU also does this thing, but from what i can tell nobody else does. Maybe under a different name?