Then why would she have that drug in her system?
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2022 Winter Olympics.
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She is 15. Manipulation is possible. She might not have known.
The long history of Russian doping is the reason for increased scrutiny. Everyone should be screened.
May be, someone should answer this question, before she is publicly destroyed?
That should be a matter of investigation. What you are demonstrating, is a presumption of guilt.
As for history of false positives:
https://www.espn.com/olympics/story...ter-kamila-valieva-alleged-positive-drug-test
Must of been an accident! too many sweets at Christmas time. If the drug was there, then somebody gave it to her and she took it knowingly or or not. Likely her coach.
Gelion
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Thats very true, but you are already moving from the very categorical
, right?
The issue with this particular case is that:
a) The drug is NOT performance enhancing
b) The test took place in December and surfaced 2 months later after she had won the gold (oven an American team)
c) She passed all her tests in between
d) It happens before the very important individual competition and might affect her resolve
After the scrutiny that the Russian athletes are under, I'd say it is time for WADA to move on to harassing other countries.
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e)yeah, it might also be a false positive. It has happened before.
Nice link. Yes, we don't know the outcome yet. Medals have not changed. One false positive is not much of a story and it was a different drug. The IOC presumed guilt based on the test but only held up the medal ceremony until further investigation happened. The internet and social media took care of the rest.
From the link above:
Trimetazidine, also known as TMZ, is a drug with stimulant properties normally used to treat angina, or chest pain due to reduced blood flow to the heart. It is not approved for use in the United States. The World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA) added it to its list of banned substances in 2014, where it is prohibited both in and out of competition. WADA issued an advisory in January 2018 that trimetazidine could show up in urine samples as a false positive for lomerizine, a migraine medication that is permitted.
Chinese swimmer Sun Yang, a three-time Olympic gold medalist, served a three-month doping ban after testing positive for trimetazidine in 2014. Russian bobsledder Nadezhda Sergeeva also tested positive for the substance during the 2018 Olympics in Pyeongchang.
American swimmer Madisyn Cox successfully appealed a two-year ban that was reduced to six months after she proved that a vitamin supplement she had been taking was contaminated with trimetazidine.
Trimetazidine, also known as TMZ, is a drug with stimulant properties normally used to treat angina, or chest pain due to reduced blood flow to the heart. It is not approved for use in the United States. The World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA) added it to its list of banned substances in 2014, where it is prohibited both in and out of competition. WADA issued an advisory in January 2018 that trimetazidine could show up in urine samples as a false positive for lomerizine, a migraine medication that is permitted.
Chinese swimmer Sun Yang, a three-time Olympic gold medalist, served a three-month doping ban after testing positive for trimetazidine in 2014. Russian bobsledder Nadezhda Sergeeva also tested positive for the substance during the 2018 Olympics in Pyeongchang.
American swimmer Madisyn Cox successfully appealed a two-year ban that was reduced to six months after she proved that a vitamin supplement she had been taking was contaminated with trimetazidine.
It was the same drug. In one case, WADA warned that permitted drug may show up as trimetazidine in test sample.
In another case, athlete appealed decision because vitamin supplements were contaminated.
We should here results soon. For now though POE calls. I will be back later.
These are results of European championship in mid-January. They were taking tests during that event, obviously:
Do you think her coach was looking at this table and thinking something like "Hmm, Kamila needs a little boost in her performance. It may ruin her career and get entire Russian team banned, but this is a risk we are willing to take"? Looks plausible?
Gelion
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I remember that photo. Every single girl on that photo could be Russian, except the Belgian
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Based on what I've heard and read, I'm on Kamila's side at this point regardless of Russia's notorious history with doping. It's just too sketchy how this went down. The drug is not even a proven performance enhancer. I highly doubt she knowingly took it herself.
Doping is not as easy to avoid as one thinks. Sure some drugs are, but some are found naturally in certain consumables.
Plus, she's is absolutely spectacular. Some silly drug she may or may not have actually tested positive for way back when, and has not since, has no bearing on her performance here. I want to see her skate again.
Go Murica!
Doping is not as easy to avoid as one thinks. Sure some drugs are, but some are found naturally in certain consumables.
Plus, she's is absolutely spectacular. Some silly drug she may or may not have actually tested positive for way back when, and has not since, has no bearing on her performance here. I want to see her skate again.
Go Murica!
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No mate, Aussie-stralia. It's a big place. Equal to CONUS. Don't let the Standard Mercator Projection map distortion fool you.
Every time they go to a shorter wavelength or digital from analog there's less range and more g a ps and then more towers.... or satellite. Theres one specifically for remote area tv.
Your excess is well known. I think it was James Taylor in the 1970s singing about a hundred (or more?) Channels and nothing to watch.
There was snow! ... at the winter Olympics! That was unexpected haha.
Based on what I've heard and read, I'm on Kamila's side at this point regardless of Russia's notorious history with doping. It's just too sketchy how this went down. The drug is not even a proven performance enhancer. I highly doubt she knowingly took it herself.
Doping is not as easy to avoid as one thinks. Sure some drugs are, but some are found naturally in certain consumables.
Plus, she's is absolutely spectacular. Some silly drug she may or may not have actually tested positive for way back when, and has not since, has no bearing on her performance here. I want to see her skate again.
Go Murica!
Ya, here is Kamila from 3 months ago.
Twirl Girl Champion for sure.
Regardless of the doping months ago, this will probably be her first and last Olympics.
Her coach grinds her skaters into dust.
https://www.vox.com/22929275/kamila-valieva-trimetazidine-eteri-tutberidze-olympics-2022
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Her coach is considered (rightfully) the absolute elite and gathers the most talented girls from all Russia - where figure scating is a popular sport.
The previous stars, Medvedeva, Zagitova and others are not "ground to dust", they are unable to compete with the new generation. Not only they, nobody can so far.
Starting from Trusova (who also participates in current Olympics), they increased technical difficulties of their programs a lot, able to do multiple quad jumps and other elements which were considered too difficult for female scaters before.
But of course, when Americans win something, they do it because of their hard work and talent - and when Russians do the same, they win because they take doping and their coach is female reincarnation of Stalin
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EnglishEdward
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Well it is all very disappointing from a UK perspective.
Not that I expected much anyway.
Not that I expected much anyway.
