9th Civ: It's Sweden

[bonafide11]

Hey, it's still an improvement over the Huns...

I disagree. The Huns are original and have a unique play style. They'll be one of the first civs I'll play with when it comes out because they'll be significantly different than any other civ. I have very little interest in playing with Sweden. A bonus with great people towards city-states? Meh. I can't imagine that will significantly alter one's play style. And finding out Sweden is your neighbor isn't going to make you adjust your strategy in any way.

 

[crawf0rd]

My Guess for their UA: Each GP expended grants influence with all city states, and slightly increases relations with other civs.

 

[mabalogna]

Neat a new civ!

My favourite country to play in Empire: Total War, kind of excited for this. YAY

 

[PhilBowles]

I disagree. The Huns are original and have a unique play style. They'll be one of the first civs I'll play with when it comes out because they'll be significantly different than any other civ. I have very little interest in playing with Sweden. A bonus with great people towards city-states? Meh. I can't imagine that will significantly alter one's play style. And finding out Sweden is your neighbor isn't going to make you adjust your strategy in any way.

We don't yet know what the ability will be. It affects relations with other civs, not just CSes, which may very well change your playstyle - you aren't going to want to get on the bad side of a civ that can make friends more easily with other civs. It's also likely to affect the way you interact with CSes. I can't see you doing anything different vs. the Huns than you would vs. the Japanese or the Aztecs - it's fairly standard to try and deter early rushes.

But my objection is in principle to the Huns as a civ - gamewise they might be interesting, but gamewise they could have given those abilities to a real civ.

In terms of gameplay interest, none of the info I've seen so far on the Swedes or other civs strikes me as being as uninteresting as what we've seen of the Celts.

 

[tofofnts]

I'm guessing the UA has do with gaining a relations boost with any civ that builds a GP

 

[Camikaze]

Looks like I missed all the fun.

Sweden sounds like a nice choice, especially with the scenario. The Carolean doesn't sound particularly unique, but I'm curious as to how the Hakka...whatever interacts with GGs.

 

[Eagle Pursuit]

I bet you can recognize other civ's great people and citystates in general every so many turns for a diplomatic boost.

 

[anandus]

Just came home.

So it is Sweden. How interesting.
The UA and UU's sound very interesting.
(And at least the whole Scandinavian sector is covered. Denmark with Norwegian units, Sweden with Finnish units).

And this leaves lots of room for a second expansion or a large amount of DLC's.
It makes me a happy boy

 

[apocalypse105]

I disagree. The Huns are original and have a unique play style. They'll be one of the first civs I'll play with when it comes out because they'll be significantly different than any other civ. I have very little interest in playing with Sweden. A bonus with great people towards city-states? Meh. I can't imagine that will significantly alter one's play style. And finding out Sweden is your neighbor isn't going to make you adjust your strategy in any way.

They will have good units just like spain average unique ability strong units

 

[Gamling]

Greatness! As a swede I really hoped for this. I made a wish post just days ago. But I think a more militaristic UA would suit Gustav II Adolph better.

Gustavus Adolphus was an extremely able military commander. His innovative tactical integration of infantry, cavalry, logistics and particularly his use of artillery, earned him the title of the "Father of Modern Warfare"

Reduced unit maintenance? Or maybe something connecting war and faith with diplomacy. He did enter Germany and the 30 years war as the savior of the Lutheran faith. Nobel price is such a late happening and is not really about swedes, it´s mostly foreigners getting the prize anyhow. A passive bonus for other nations getting great people dosn´t seem fun.

Perhaps should the UU light field cannon i suggested earlier for Sweden be a common new unit linking Crossbowmen with the new Gatling guns. It really seem to be a gap there still. Perhaps with just one hex range and no set up required.

 

[JFD]

Nobel price is such a late happening and is not really about swedes, it´s mostly foreigners getting the prize anyhow.

Lol. Except for the Danish.

 

[anandus]

I wonder if the Swedish UA is only available after the discovery of dynamite

 

[Louis XXIV]

a more militaristic UA would suit Gustav II Adolph

A more militaristic UA would also suit Napoleon. Having a UA that isn't named after the person who was beheaded before Napoleon came to power would also suit Napoleon.

UA's aren't designed around leaders. A UA named after the Noble Peace Prize suits Sweden. Plus, it reflects modern Sweden.

 

[AbsintheRed]

I think you got most of the marginal Euro civs out of the way now. Then you still leave yourself with sellers in Portugal/Zulu DLC's.

I don't see Poland or Hungary any time soon. Although what are the scenarios again?

1. Fall of Rome
2. Renaissance

So still that leaves a Medieval scenario does it not? So I definitely could see Hungary and Poland added then. Wouldn't bet on it though.

Yeah, I'm also hoping for a real medieval scenario with Hungary and Poland
Besides Portugal - which will certainly be soon added as a DLC - those 2 are the only main missing European civs
Ideally there would be 2 DLCs released soon: a Portugal-Kongo and a Hungary-Poland doublepack, and then no more Europeans

 

[Austria]

I am sick and tired of hearing people whine about "another European civ". In my opinion, I am hoping for the next new civs to include Portugal, Poland, or maybe even another native American civ, definately not Zulus or any other civ that hasn't earn a spot.

 

[Glassmage]

Filthy Europeans ruin everything.

 

[Gamling]

UA's aren't designed around leaders. A UA named after the Noble Peace Prize suits Sweden. Plus, it reflects modern Sweden.

Yeah even though modern Sweden is a great place to live in today its a boring addition to a game where war is important. We had peace for the last 200 years but before that we our warrior Kings made war for 300 years. At the moment playing civ V I almost never go to war by my self since I am busy improving my land. I don´t need a UA improving all my foreign relations.

The UA should be really unique leading to a play style that makes the nation diverse from the others. Hopefully not just as a passive bonus.

 

[AbsintheRed]

Filthy Europeans ruin everything.

Not really, no
I want a whole lot of non-european civs too

Yeah, I more or less agree
Btw, I made an ordered list for 50 civs a few days ago, this is a slightly modified version of it:

Based mostly on historical importance, but heavily taken into account popularity and uniqueness too (and appearance in previous civ games to a little extent):
1. Sumer
2. Hungary
3. Portugal
4. Khmer
5. Poland
6. Kongo
7. Phoenicia
8. Indonesia (Majapahit or Srivijaya)
9. Sioux
10. Hittite
11. Sweden
12. Morocco (representing mostly the Almohads/Almoravids, but Al-Andalus too)
13. Khazars
14. Mali
15. Assyria
16. Zulu
17. Apache (or another important native american civ: Navajo, Comanche, Cherokee, etc...)

Some of these are kinda close to one or more already released civs, but in those cases historical importance and popularity is dominant enough - at least for me
Also from these civs, quite a few are popular enough to be released as DLC:
Zulu, Sumer, Portugal+Kongo, Hungary+Poland (with a real medieval scenario), Sioux+Apache. I expect some of these will become availeable even in this year
Hopefully we will get most of the remaining ones in a second expansion

 

[anandus]

[...] and a Hungary-Poland doublepack [...]

With Austria and the Huns already in, I really doubt Hungary will ever be in.
Maybe there'll be a Hungarian UU for Austria? (like the Norwegian/Finnish UU's)

 

[AbsintheRed]

With Austria and the Huns already in, I really doubt Hungary will ever be in.
Maybe there'll be a Hungarian UU for Austria? (like the Norwegian/Finnish UU's)

Yeah, I have to agree unfortunately
With the inclusion of the Huns from the classical era, and the Austrians from the late Renaissance, both in the same region, the chances are rather slim

I'm still hoping though, Hungary was a way too important medieval power to be left out
Was one of the top European powers for 600 years!
Btw, I really don't want to have a Hungarian UU for Austria
They should get an own UU (there are plenty to choose from), and an UB replacing the Opera House