9th Civ: It's Sweden

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Shaka is boiling with anger. He'll see you soon sir! I know I know it was funny while it lasted.

Yep if they are added I will be the first to play you :p. But still doesn't change the fact they didn't/don't deserve it.

And in case you didn't see it Greg, mind telling us just a little more about the Maya. Hopefully they won't be corny (something I know at least I am afraid of they might become because of the whole 2012 mania).
 
So, when will we get those podcasts Greg? :)
 
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Oh well. Guess June 19th will be here inevitably.
 
I have no problem with Sweden's inclusion in any way or form, just that I wanted something other than European... but hey.. Nobel Prize sounds super fun.
 
Ah well. I'm always happy for more official civs, so really I couldn't have been too disappointed with any civ. Sweden is kinda boring tho! Hopefully we'll have some fun DLC (I'm looking at you, Shaka).
 
I love the UA. It shows a more modern side to Sweden, well relatively. And I I'm really interested to hear (and see!) more about them.
 
I am really excited for this, for those not to pleased you have to look on the bright side- there is going to be more dlcs with the other civs and the fact that this expansion pack added 3 never before used civs
 
I dont have nothing against Sweden, but, as I said before, after all the speculation I was expecting something more creative from 2k.

Also, I dont like to see them choosing civs to fill the scenarios. I think that the expansion should be more focused on the core game and civs to play no matter what. IMO scenarios are for DLCs.

I dont know about everybody else, but for me and my friends scenarios doesnt matter much. I never finnished the denmark, mongol or korea scenario. I like to play from zero...

Finnaly, we already have a diplomatic civ for this exp, Austria.
 
I think Dennis Shirk said that "into the Renaissance" scenario is "huge". Im really interested in this scenario. Also the Fall of Rome scenario sounds pretty interesting.
 
And Greg is gone again :(
 
The Fins will be happy as well, btw. Sad about lack of a cannon, though.
 
A bit disappointed about it being another European civ...but I ended up realizing that a)Sweden and Denmark were both important during the Renaissance, which one of the scenarios is based off of, and b)Denmark isn't going to be included in the expansion, so the scenario needs someone to fill up scandinavia.

Oh well. Here's hoping the next DLC is soon, and isn't another European.
 
And in case you didn't see it Greg, mind telling us just a little more about the Maya. Hopefully they won't be corny (something I know at least I am afraid of they might become because of the whole 2012 mania).

Hopefully the only connection will be that they're being released for Civ V in 2012 (and may have been deliberately withheld from the core game for that reason). A 'Calendar-based ability' makes sense for the Maya but hopefully won't have any connection to 2012 - the Maya calendar was genuinely sophisticated (and it didn't end in 2012). Yes, they may have something corny, but it will probably be a flavour thing with little game effect, as Carthage's similarly corny mountain-crossing ability seems to be.

I dont have nothing against Sweden, but, as I said before, after all the speculation I was expecting something more creative from 2k.

It's a civ that's never been in the game, it's not an especially obvious choice since Sweden is not one of the defining civs of European history in the way that the other European inclusions (including new girl Austria) are, and its golden age is relatively obscure. I don't see that as being obviously less creative than many of the other options that could have been chosen. Less interesting, I'd agree, but I'd say 2K gets marks for creativity (unless they screw up the ability).

Also, I dont like to see them choosing civs to fill the scenarios. I think that the expansion should be more focused on the core game and civs to play no matter what. IMO scenarios are for DLCs.

Personally, I'd prefer to see scenarios used as a way to introduce new civs (and Wonders, techs etc. potentially), and would like more of the DLC packs to be, like the New World one, multi-civ packs that play well with the scenarios. I'd have liked Sumer and the Hittites to be added, with more developed abilities, in Wonders of the Ancient World.

I dont know about everybody else, but for me and my friends scenarios doesnt matter much. I never finnished the denmark, mongol or korea scenario. I like to play from zero...

The scenarios are in principle an interesting way of designing different game mechanics or approaches. I've only played three so far.

I loved the 1066 one, but haven't been as impressed by Wonders of the Ancient World or the Polynesia scenario. Wonders has a nice idea on the way to unlock Wonders, but I found the scenario a walkover and the new civ abilities didn't strike me as interesting. Polynesia doesn't really have an interesting enough UA to make a good scenario that revolves around it, and the size of the islands makes it difficult to place Moai in a way that showcases their strengths. I love the fact that there's a detailed South Pacific map, but it's not great to play on. The social policy countdown is frustrating if you're behind since the scenario tech and policy trees offer few ways to come out ahead if you're behind in culture, and conversely if you're ahead there's no challenge because there isn't a time limit and no one else is going to catch up.
 
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