A Brave New World Part 2

[Ace of Gold]

To: France
From: Quebec

Looks like you will have to then. France has two choices, to help their most loyal ally succeed, or help destroy their most loyal ally. It does not matter which one you pick, either way, i'm not withdrawing my declaration. What Canada did is unacceptable and there is only one punishment for those kinds of actions. So, what is your decision?

 

[germanicus12]

To Sauk
From Deseret

Deseret also rejects most of the proposal. This discussion involves only the Fox-Sauk war, Deseret will not concern itself with matters of Virginia and Miami or the Great Lakes.

Therefore we will accept the first 4 terms and possibly the fifth if Fox agrees. Ultimately the only goal of these talks is to determine the fact that Fox is returned to their native lands and war ends.

Canada should not apologize, what have they done? Other than help out friends in need by harboring them and taking care of their needs while the Sauk continue to burn and ravage their homes? Surely you would do the same if France needed a place to crash when Paris is burning?

 

[EQandcivfanatic]

Once more the Fox refuse the Sauk proposal. We do not claim responsibility for a war caused by their atrocities. The Isanti must have their own land back, not ours.

 

[Haseri]

To: Buenos Aires Protectorate
From: Chile

For too long our countries have been divided by the Andes. Forcing any travel to be done by ships when a journey could be a scarce 30 miles away. I propose that we create railroad passes through the Andes mountains so that our nations could be connected overland as well as through ship routes.

Sincerily,
Adolfo Palma - Prime Minister of the Republica de Chile

To: Chile
From: Buenos Aries Protectorate

We find this as an excellent idea. Though do bare in mind that we would have to build through La Plata, so you would need to ask their permission, but I expect that will be granted if you explain the benefits to them.

Of course, we are looking into improving the design of Count von Zeppelin's, well, Zeppelins. When work on those are over, we will have three ways of travelling between countries: Land, sea and air!.

OOC: La Plata is the orange state which OTL would be Argentina. Buenos Aries is the purplely one on the coast. Still, the problem with long distances still counts.

 

[TheLastJacobite]

To France
From New England

The Sauk terms are not fair. Why should our warships on the Great Lakes are not large in tonnage or numbers, yet they serve to protect trade there and the majority of nations that border the Great Lakes (Ourselves, Canada, Chicago, Albany Pennsylvania, and Virginia) do not mind that they are there. In fact, this is the first time ever, that anyone has ever complained about them, or even brought them up in a diplomatic situation. Also, the issue with the Miami is over and done with, why should it be rehashed?

And to be quite frank, while your word is good enough for the government of New England, the people of our nation cannot help but notice that this is the second time in 5 years that one of your protectorates has invaded one of ours. We cannot ignore the fact that this is happening right next door to us, nor the fact that Quebecois citizens are taking up arms along our border. We cannot sit back and allow Quebec to attack Canada and ourselves. We hereby declare war on Quebec and we will remain at war until we can insure that something like this will never happen again.

 

[Matt0088]

To: Quebec
From: Canada

If that is your unjust and imperialist decision, then so be it.

To: Sauk, Fox, New England
From: Canada
Re: Anyone esle interested in the Sauk-Fox Crisis

We agree with New England.

 

[conehead234]

The Dominion of Louisiana announces that it will cut ties with France and declares its independence from the French Imperium. France has lost its authority over its protectorates in the Americas and the hypocrisy in response to wars started by her protectorates. This is also the results of an accumulation of souring relations between our 2 nations and it is best that Louisiana leaves this sinking ship that is the French Imperium.

The Dominion of Louisiana will hereby be known as the Empire of Louisiana and we ask the nations of the Americas to recognize us as independent.

Signed,

Consul Louis Garbe

 

[D'Artagnan59]

To: All those in the Canadian Crisis
From: Serbia

We support Canada's side and condemn Quebecois actions.

 

[tuxedohamm]

To: Empire of Louisiana
From: Kingdom of Tennessee

We are pleased to hear of your decision. We hope that this may lead to better relations between our two states. We also hope there will be no incidents like there were in Texas in your future from now on.

The Kingdom of Tennessee recognizes the Empire of Louisiana as an independent state.

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To: Quebec, Canada, New England
From: Tennessee

We are alarmed at the increased tensions. We urge you to come to an amicable agreement and not resort to war.

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To: Pennsylvania, New Jersey
From: Tennessee

We are alarmed by the fighting between you. Please come to a peaceful resolution.

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To: France, New England
From: Tennessee

There has been constant turmoil among your protectorates. We urge you to find a way to maintain peace between them and yourselves for fear of tensions exploding into another world conflict.

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To: Saulk, Fox
From: Tennessee

We feel the currently suggested agreement is not fair to the Fox or Isanti. We hope that a better arrangement can be made.

 

[EQandcivfanatic]

This be the 29 hour warnin.

 

[Fëanor]

To: France
From: Quebec

Looks like you will have to then. France has two choices, to help their most loyal ally succeed, or help destroy their most loyal ally. It does not matter which one you pick, either way, i'm not withdrawing my declaration. What Canada did is unacceptable and there is only one punishment for those kinds of actions. So, what is your decision?

From: Sauk
To: Quebec

We urge you to reconsider and attempt to solve this diplomatically.

To Sauk
From Deseret

Deseret also rejects most of the proposal. This discussion involves only the Fox-Sauk war, Deseret will not concern itself with matters of Virginia and Miami or the Great Lakes.

This discussion revolves around the issue of regional stability, Virginia feels that Fox and Isanti right of self determination is key for regional stability. We disagree on that, since Fox and Isanti violence against the Sauk, and now the Canadian support for this violence, are the source of instability and making the Fox and Isanti independent will allow them to re-arm and resume hostile actions against their neighbors. Since the Sauk are peace loving and reasonable we an are willing to concede to Virginia their demands for people's right of self-determination and restore the Fox Nation and make a Isanti Nation. However we also feel that Virginia should honor their own mantra and apply the same standards by promptly restoring the Independence of Miami, which will also remove our mutual borders, greatly stabilizing the region.

And even though Deseret has no border with anyone politically involved in this region we would welcome some constructive input from them, perhaps a counter-proposal?

Therefore we will accept the first 4 terms and possibly the fifth if Fox agrees. Ultimately the only goal of these talks is to determine the fact that Fox is returned to their native lands and war ends.

The War has ended, all formely Fox territories are under our control.

As for the Fox native lands, the fox used to live along what you call the St. Lawrance river before your kind forced them away. But since i sincerely doubt your kind will allow them to return to their Native lands all are welcome to return to either Sauk or the new Fox Nation that will be created.

Canada should not apologize, what have they done? Other than help out friends in need by harboring them and taking care of their needs while the Sauk continue to burn and ravage their homes? Surely you would do the same if France needed a place to crash when Paris is burning?

No, we do not wish more white men in our lands, we would send humanitarian aid to other nations welcoming French refugees though, however we would stop if instead of helping innocents civilians our aid would be used to continue a war of aggression against others.

To France
From New England

The Sauk terms are not fair. Why should our warships on the Great Lakes are not large in tonnage or numbers, yet they serve to protect trade there and the majority of nations that border the Great Lakes (Ourselves, Canada, Chicago, Albany Pennsylvania, and Virginia) do not mind that they are there. In fact, this is the first time ever, that anyone has ever complained about them, or even brought them up in a diplomatic situation.

We already dropped this point, your attempt to use as an excuse for disagreement combined with your refusal to chastise Canada their acts of war poorly disguises your hostile agenda against the French Imperial Protectorates of America. We hope you will prove us wrong and bring some constructive input to these talks.

 

[Crezth]

OOC: Civil war. Goody goody.

To: Louisiana
From: France

You fools. If that is your opinion, so be it. We hereby declare that a state of war exists between the Imperium of France and the Dominion of Louisiana.

To: Georgia, Texas
From: France

We shall pay each of you 5 EP for right-of-passage and staging rights in your territories for 3 years, to be renewed in 3 years if necessary.

To: Quebec
From: France

Be sensible. We shall discuss this in private.

To: New England, Sauk
From: France

If Sauk's terms are unacceptable we are willing to discuss other terms which are fair and will resolve this situation handily.

Consider:

1. The Fox government will be tried in a French military tribunal for crimes against the nations of both Sauk and Fox.
2. The Fox lands shall be returned to Fox control and an emergency election held to establish new leadership. In the meantime, an interim administrator from Paris will be in command.
3. The Fox shall drop all arguments against the Sauk government with regards to i. the Isanti population, and ii. the Sauk-Fox War.
4. Fox will admit the Isanti population into their country or, failing that, they shall be dealt with by France.
5. France and all of her protectorates will renew their non-aggression pact with New England and her protectorates for a period of at least 10 years.

We hope this is acceptable to New England. We do not understand what has caused this recent animosity towards the Imperium from Boston, but we think that ultimately there can be lasting peace between our nations if we are all willing to negotiate.

 

[EQandcivfanatic]

The Fox rejects all of France terms.

 

[TheLastJacobite]

To France
From New England

Why must the Fox be punished? We fail to see what they have done wrong. They declared war on the Sauk to protect an oppressed minority in that nation when no one else, not even ourselves, would help the Isanti. The only crime they are guilty of is compassion.

And what of Canada? We took no action when Texas was invaded because we were under the assumption it was a fluke. But we cannot sit idly by while Quebec invades out neighbor and protectorate. If France will not take action against Quebec (as the Quebecois government has steadfastly refused to use reason or diplomacy), then we will be forced to take action ourselves.

We must stress that we have no trouble with France, only with Quebec and we are dealing with it in the only way that has been made possible to us, since Quebec has refused all diplomatic envoys, even from France.

 

[Matt0088]

and now the Canadian support for this violence, are the source of instability.

We have done nothing to cause instability. We have not hurt a fly during the past year and have only provided a unforunate peoples some peace and security.

We already dropped this point, your attempt to use as an excuse for disagreement combined with your refusal to chastise Canada their acts of war poorly disguises your hostile agenda against the French Imperial Protectorates of America. We hope you will prove us wrong and bring some constructive input to these talks.

Um..., excuse me?!? We are not the ones who tripled our military(Quebec), we are not the one who has attacked others unjustly(Quebec, Louisiana, New Jersey), we are not the ones who demand the constant uncomfort of peoples(You). We are not the ones who will refuse any attempt at peace(Quebec). If anything it is the lesser nations of the French Imperial Protectorate who have the hostile agena against the world.

 

[DarthNader]

From: The Zulu Empire
To: Buenos Aries Protectorate, Paraguay, La Plata

Greetings from across the ocean. Would you be interested in establishing trade ties with us? We would really like to broaden the markets we sell our goods on.

 

[Crezth]

To: New England
From: France

We are engaging in diplomatic oevertures with the Quebecois, and if a peaceful resolution cannot be reached then we will unfortunately be unable to spare them the cane. As for the Fox, our agreement in no way punishes them. Punishing them would be refusing them their independence. As it stands, the crime they are guilty of, unequivocally, is attacking other state. That is completely unacceptable and should not be looked upon favorably by the world of states. We presently seek to address Isanti issues in Sauk without relying on that sinful concept of self-determination (or, as we call it, chaos, anarchy, and disorder), and we expect the Fox to pay for going straight to war, completely bypassing all social conventions and diplomacy.

 

[human-slaughter]

From: The Republic of Texas
To: France

Our cooperation cannot be bought. Our neutrality in this conflict shall remain constant. No foreign troops will be allowed to set foot on Texan Soil. Just as you denied us the ability to make war upon Louisiana we shall not allow you to use us to make war.

From: The Republic of Texas
To: The Dominion of Louisiana

Although we agree to gradual independence of the Louisiana territory this is far too drastic. If our payments of reparations do not continue we will indeed allow the staging of French troops in Texan territory so that we acquire our rightful payment.

 

[Fëanor]

1. The Fox government will be tried in a French military tribunal for crimes against the nations of both Sauk and Fox.
2. The Fox lands shall be returned to Fox control and an emergency election held to establish new leadership. In the meantime, an interim administrator from Paris will be in command.
3. The Fox shall drop all arguments against the Sauk government with regards to i. the Isanti population, and ii. the Sauk-Fox War.
4. Fox will admit the Isanti population into their country or, failing that, they shall be dealt with by France.
5. France and all of her protectorates will renew their non-aggression pact with New England and her protectorates for a period of at least 10 years.

1. We believe that in the interest of reconciliation a blanket clemency for all involved in the conflict would be better. Barring the warmongering former Fox civilian leaders from office should suffice.
2. We believe that it might be best if French Expeditionary Forces stationed in Sauk would set up a military interim government to make sure that sympathizers of the former regime will not sabotage the peacefull transition to a new government, grab power and attack us once again.
3. Yes, we are willing to drop our request of Miami independence if Virginia drops their demands for Isanti independence.
4. While we do not require expulsion of the Isanti it would be best if all the Isanti that want to relocate to the Fox Nation be allowed to do so.
5. We agree and hope that something similar can be achieved with Virginia.

Finally we still hope some kind of reparations can be made, if necessary by the Fox supporters, expecially since Canada helped the warmongering and thieving former Fox regime to steal the Fox peoples industrial and economic assets, thus ruining the Fox economy and making it practiaclly impossible for any reparations to be made by them.

We have done nothing to cause instability. We have not hurt a fly during the past year and have only provided a unforunate peoples some peace and security.

We would be openly at war if my generals did not halt their advance when your ships arrived and threatened to open fire on our forces. Now you harbor and support a warmongering regime, we can only hope it will come to haunt you because once we have reaches an agreement with real powers these warmongers might decide to carve out a new nations for themselves by taking back their ancestral homelands, which you now occupy.

 

[Matt0088]

Finally we still hope some kind of reparations can be made, if necessary by the Fox supporters, expecially since Canada helped the warmongering and thieving former Fox regime to steal the Fox peoples industrial and economic assets, thus ruining the Fox economy and making it practiaclly impossible for any reparations to be made by them.

We have not affected the war in anyway, nor have we prolonged it if a diplomatic end can be reached soon. Therefore, you will be getting no reparations from Canada.

We would be openly at war if my generals did not halt their advance when your ships arrived and threatened to open fire on our forces. Now you harbor and support a warmongering regime, we can only hope it will come to haunt you because once we have reaches an agreement with real powers these warmongers might decide to carve out a new nations for themselves by taking back their ancestral homelands, which you now occupy.

That seems funny, as our ships were ordered to not fire unless fired upon under all circumstances. As for occuping their ancestral homelands, Quebec is currently in possesion of 95% of them.