A Catholic's rant

[GenMarshall]

Honestly CG, come now. First you claim "I never seen a non-religious person in real life" and now you are going to stick with the "I'm not biased in any way or against anyone" story? (recently removed by you) Do you really need me to drag out all of your numerous posts that say otherwise? What does the bible say about not telling the truth?

You caught me there (BTW, I removed that post because I did not want to be seen trolling anyone). I dont want you to be opening up old wonds again. I am already emotionaly and spiritualy drained by bending over backwards to be toerant of others as it is. Right now I have no desire nor any will to be tolerant of other people's beliefs and/or life styles.
Also I dont care what the bible says about not telling the truth.

P.S. - Why is it "just asking for trouble" or does it "reek of troll bait"? The Yankee has already viewed this thread and let it live. If there is some specific post you have a problem with then just report it as such. As an alternative there is no shame in admitting when you have misspoke.

I dont want to get my Emotions go out of wack when things get heated.

 

[Sahkuhnder]

@ CivGeneral -

Fair enough, I respect that.

I'm not trying to be mean - I am trying to provoke a little inward looking thought which will hopefully help you to learn and grow.

 

[GenMarshall]

I'm not trying to be mean - I am trying to provoke a little inward looking thought which will hopefully help you to learn and grow.

Realy, I dont need any inward looking right now, My focus is mainly School and Religion during my summer break (as well as meeting with my freinds). As I have told you, I am emotionaly and spiritualy drained bending over backwards to be tolerant of other people's beliefs eventhough they are hostile towards my religion as well as other people's lifestyles that I and the Church sees as immoral and even saying a peep that I dont support same-gender marrages because of religious reasons provokes people to say "quit imposing your morals on other people", Morality is absolute. There is not my morality and your morality. There is morality and immorality.

Now I am starting to wonder why I tend to get emotional is because that I bend over for people way too much and it just builds and builds and then, pop I explode into an emotional outburst

 

[Homie]

Nope, I never bend over to be tolerant, but they get to me too, and I get the emotional outburst. The only way to really get out of it, is to avoid CFC Off-Topic alltogether.

 

[CurtSibling]

Avoid CFC? That is impossible.

The solution is to ignore other people.

I don't expect people to respect my worldview,
because I sure as hades won't be respecting theirs!

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[GenMarshall]

The solution is to ignore other people.

Thats the frist thing that I agree with Curt in the longest time

 

[Tycoon101]

Avoid CFC? That is impossible.

The solution is to ignore other people.

I don't expect people to respect my worldview,
because I sure as hades won't be respecting theirs!

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You know what Curt, you just sometimes make me smile

I agree, I don't care about whether others agree with me, as long as I view that I am correct then I have nothing to worry about.

 

[puglover]

But Jack Chick says.......

 

[Eran of Arcadia]

I have been accused of not being Christian either. In fact, as far as I can tell the Vatican doesn't seem to consider Mormons Christian.

But the trick is to ask her exactly how she defines "Christian". In other words, what is the one trait that having makes one a Christian no matter what else they do or believe, and that lacking makes one not Christian no matter what? A lot of people couldn't give an answer. Given the diversity that Christianity has, and that it had historically, I am not sure that worshipping Mary and the Saints would disqualify one from being a Christian anyways.

 

[Godwynn]

I've always been told that "us" Catholics worshipped Mary and were not Christian because their minister said so as well. I guess they know better than we do.

 

[Eran of Arcadia]

I learned long ago that the best source of information about a religion usually isn't a minister of another religion, but a member of the religion in question. Preaching against what others believe (whether it is true or not) from your own pulpit is tacky, to say the least.

 

[GenMarshall]

I learned long ago that the best source of information about a religion usually isn't a minister of another religion, but a member of the religion in question. Preaching against what others believe (whether it is true or not) from your own pulpit is tacky, to say the least.

Thats why I feel its good to ask in a respectfull manner about a certan part of a person's faith .

 

[North King]

In response to the opening post... Wow. Even I don't think that, and I'm not even a Christian.

In seriousness, it speaks of a very deep level of general ignorance in our society, and an unwillingness of our society's members to investigate the truth behind other people's beliefs.

 

[CaptainF]

The moral of this thread is...Not to discuss religion over lunch!

Exactly!

I have discussed religion with people who hold views diametrically opposed to mine, lemme just say, I almost lost my lunch.

 

[GoodSarmatian]

Ah, Mary and the Saints...
The reason some Jews and Muslims don't think Christians are monotheists...

 

[joycem10]

Alot of the hardcore evangelical protestants hate Catholics bitterly. In college I lived with a girl who was a former bible thumper and went through a Christian high school. I heard alot of the stuff mentioned in the 1st post.

She was pretty much deprogrammed (hell she was sharing an apartment with me) but still had alot of the old Catholic biases that she would throw at me whenever religion came up as a topic. Im a lapsed Catholic and used to bait her for fun.

Some of the stuff they believe:

Catholics are idolaters and pagans because they worship deities other than God/Jesus.

The pope is the "Whore of Babylon".

Catholics will go to hell.

The Catholic clerics of the early church perverted Christianity to fit their own satanic views.

Catholic provocateurs have been working in the shadows to manipulate history since the middle ages.

Communion is a satanic ritual meant to bind people to Satan by the drinking of "blood".

Nuns and priests engage in blood orgies involving perverted sex, rape and human sacrifice.

Some real crazy stuff, very Chickesque and always good for a laugh.

 

[GoldEagle]

I say to her, ‘Okay, Frances*, Catholics are as Christian as anyone else.

Wrong. They believe Mary was born without sin. Christians don't believe that.

They believe good works can get you to Heaven (don't even argue me on this):

8For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God— 9not by works, so that no one can boast.

They believe in Purgatory, yet the Pope seems to be shaky on this subjec in recent years. Show me, please, where in the Bible it says there is such thing as Purgatory?


There are many other differences between Catholics and Christians. Catholicism is (a form of) Christianity, but Christianity is not Catholicism. There a big differences between Catholicism and those sects created by the Protestant Reformation.

Note:I am in no way saying that Catholics do not go to Heaven (if you believe in an afterlife). I'm just stating the facts.

 

[RameNoodle]

I recently attended Jewish services for a naming ceremony for a friend of mine's baby. The Rabbi went out on a tangent, speaking about abortion, and how a fetus is not a life, and it is the woman's choice. I think that he even used the term "Catholic view" and criticized it. It offended me greatly that one of the leaders of another religion would make such a blatant attack on another religion's opinion.

They believe in Purgatory, yet the Pope seems to be shaky on this subjec in recent years. Show me, please, where in the Bible it says there is such thing as Purgatory?

I don't think that there is a passage about Purgatory. But there is one in The Catechism

 

[Godwynn]

Communion is a satanic ritual meant to bind people to Satan by the drinking of "blood".

Nuns and priests engage in blood orgies involving perverted sex, rape and human sacrifice.

Jesus! (Pun intended)

There are some crazies out there. You should have invited her to your church.

 

[The Last Conformist]

Ah, Mary and the Saints...
The reason some Jews and Muslims don't think Christians are monotheists...

Of course, the main reason they think Christians are polytheists is the whole Trinity doctrine.

The funny thing is that sects within Buddhism that are, to the external observer, more different from one another than are Shiism and Lutheranism tend to go along amiably. It's been said that the ancient Greeks had a "genius for disunity" - the same is just as true for the "Abrahamitic"* religions.

* I don't like the term, but I can't think of a better one ATM. I'm, of course, refering to Christianity, Islam, and Judaism, with their various offshoots and cousins.