A Petition to put post count in IOT

Post count in IOT subforum?


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Mafia has the same problem. It's like some sort of analogy involving a dead skunk, toothpaste, and the futility of man.
 
There is good consensus that something should be changed regarding postcount/non-postcount forum policies; minor progress towards a consensus on exactly what to do and how to apply it. Some interaction with the reorganization of other games. It proceedeth more rapidly that I had previously expected.





Edit: Ignore the Evily post following this one :p
 
Yeah, the big question is whether a post in IOT should count as a -1 or a -2 to pc. We can't seem to agree....;)
 
Also, if granting postcount serves as an imperative for the mods to crack down on blatant spam, I'm all for it.

I cannot echo this sentiment hard enough.

There is spam in IOT, but there's spam pretty much anywhere; the proper course of action, I think, is that spam be reported and dealt with, regardless of subforum.

Now some forum games are inherently spammy, such as "Rate the Avatar above you" style games which have little discussion. Then you have much more complex games like IOT or Mafia where there can be some serious discussion between players that isn't one-liners by far. And if there is a one liner? Well, all the more reason for the community to have its own quality rules and report these posts to moderators for swift deletion.

The inherent idea of post count is that it rewards effort-taking posts, which is why it tends to be removed from spammy areas to begin with. Removing spam on a case by case basis may require more work than blanket removal of post count, but there is no shortage of members on CFC, and I don't think much of a shortage who'd be up to this task either.

I think in the end everyone wins - those who put effort into their posts see their post count increase, while those who spam are pushed out, raising the quality of games immensely.
 
How exactly do one-liners detract from the quality of the thread if they make someone chuckle? Also if something only needs one sentence, adding more would also be spam because it's just meaningless fluff. Not everything needs a wall of text for RP.
 
How exactly do one-liners detract from the quality of the thread if they make someone chuckle? Also if something only needs one sentence, adding more would also be spam because it's just meaningless fluff. Not everything needs a wall of text for RP.
Besides, I think we all know there's one player that routinely proves quantity ≠ quality.
 
I disagree. The inherent idea of post count is to count the number of posts you've made.
Except on this forum, it's not accurate for a significant number of us. I don't bother posting in the serial threads because I know that as soon as there are 1000 posts, the thread will be archived and my post count will go down. And there are a couple of years' worth of my posts (not sure how many hundreds, or maybe over a thousand) in the staff forum that are no longer part of my post count. Yet I made them, and while most were duty-related, there were some that were funny, some that were serious discussion, and so on.
 
Enabling postcount would allow you to remove this troublesome sentence from the forum index.

Spoiler :
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Posts in here/posts here/posts here
don't/don't/do not
toward/towards/towards
postcounts/postcount/postcount

PROOFREAD IT AND WEEP
 
There may be reason to deviate from the basic idea. My point, though, is that it's a statistic much more than a reward.
 
There is spam in IOT, but there's spam pretty much anywhere; the proper course of action, I think, is that spam be reported and dealt with, regardless of subforum.

Now some forum games are inherently spammy, such as "Rate the Avatar above you" style games which have little discussion. Then you have much more complex games like IOT or Mafia where there can be some serious discussion between players that isn't one-liners by far.

The inherent idea of post count is that it rewards effort-taking posts, which is why it tends to be removed from spammy areas to begin with. Removing spam on a case by case basis may require more work than blanket removal of post count, but there is no shortage of members on CFC, and I don't think much of a shortage who'd be up to this task either.

There may be reason to deviate from the basic idea. My point, though, is that it's a statistic much more than a reward.
IF pc comes to IOT (mafia etc) and it is likely to, if we make changes, then I will be more than happy to delete spam posts from IOT games. The chattiness of Argentina is supposed to discourage spamming up games by providing an alternative.

I suspect that such games as rate the avatar above etc, will have their own non pc forum.

Postcount is an inaccurate statistic and a reward for many. As a stat we know it undercounts participation. If IOT and Mafia get pc, they will add 180,000 posts to user accounts. That is a big bump.

Keeping score is a natural human trait and pc is one way to do it. So is setting goals and trying to reach a particular pc count or a place in the "top 20 posters by pc" list is a pretty normal human activity. For some such enthusiasm for pc can be intimidating or seem just plain stupid. But for the most part pc is a harmless past time.
 
If you agree that it's harmless, then why bother not counting it for anything? It's just a statistic, weighting it makes it seem more important than it actually is.
 
Postcount is an inaccurate statistic and a reward for many. As a stat we know it undercounts participation. If IOT and Mafia get pc, they will add 180,000 posts to user accounts. That is a big bump.
Would that not also add those 180,000 posts to the overall forum total? Isn't saying that CFC has an additional 180,000 posts a good thing when it comes to measuring how popular this site is, no matter who made them, or how many each individual person made?

On my own forums, I give people special little graphic images to display when they reach certain levels of postcount, and an additional custom-made one for the person who posts a "milestone" number - say, the 25,000th or 100,000th post. At that point it can get a bit intense among the people who like having special recognition for their part in building the community.

Oh, and I don't allow fluff nonsense like "rate the avatar above you" or "count by ____." Topics like those don't require any great amount of effort whatsoever, and are just lazy.
 
If you agree that it's harmless, then why bother not counting it for anything? It's just a statistic, weighting it makes it seem more important than it actually is.
Harmless and important are not the same. For some it may be very important and still harmless.

The decision is not mine alone and a consensus among staff is needed. I am only speaking for myself above and not anyone else.
 
Harmless and important are not the same. For some it may be very important and still harmless.

Which is still fine, right?

The decision is not mine alone and a consensus among staff is needed. I am only speaking for myself above and not anyone else.

I know, but if I can change your mind, then maybe I or you will change someone else's mind, and I'll actually find out how many posts I've written on this damn site.
 
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