This is the relative economic strength of nations in 1831
RE: update, I'm going to need to tweak some stuff relating to unit costs, and I need to write something up regarding claiming unclaimed provinces because I seemed to have totally forgotten about them, but otherwise update is almost ready.
You expect me to believe that a historical divergence in 1700 resulted in China industrializing within the next 131 years? You think the Qing dynasty was capable of industrializing?
So go ahead, explain what changed that the Qing decide to industrialize.
Yea, no. So then you have to explain why the Qing dynasty fell.
Thank you based SouthernKing.
Claiming Central America, Bogota (capital), Maracaibo, Orinoco, Ecuador, Lima, Cusco, and Altiplano as the Bolivarian Republic of Gran Colombia.
Will write and post more later.
Link. Somebody who lives in a glass house shouldn't throw stones. Before asking other players to write essays, maybe you should tend to your garden.
How about you explain why the Bolivarian Republic exists despite a PoD of 1700 very likely causing butterflies that sweep away literally everything after 1725, including the Napoleonic Wars.
But you know what, lets not dwell on that. Lets dwell on you, a player who has put less effort into his sign up than most other players in this thread, calling out China for being industrialized without adequately explaining why Chinese industrialization is so impossible. Before asking other players why a dynasty doesn't exist, maybe you should first write us all a ten page essay about why the Bolivarian Republic exists with a PoD of 1700, which is actually less realistic than an industrialized China.
If you can't see why that is less "realistic", that is on you. Not us. Notice how we're not aggressively going after your country. Except I am now, because you're being irritating to a good chunk of the playerbase.
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no your right, its various reasons, peasant rebellions, various invaders, natural disasters, corrupt administration, decadent rulers, failing bureaucracy, Loss of the mandate of Heaven.
Take your pick
ultimately this video will probably give you a better idea.
Link to video.
anyways why the heck does it really matter?
HELL I haven't even described my nation other than the fact that I am the "Mexican Empire" and you are complaining that china is industrialized.
Especially since they are NOT the Qing or Ming dynasty
edit: I think sone said it better than I did, thank you sone
I asked a question, namely, why China's so industrialized. You blew this up for no reason with inane non-sequitors.
You expect me to believe that a historical divergence in 1700 resulted in China industrializing within the next 131 years? You think the Qing dynasty was capable of industrializing?
So go ahead, explain what changed that the Qing decide to industrialize.