A Question of Ettiquette

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Why would anyone close the door?? It confuses the issue so much. I hate going over to person's house where they keep the doors closed. How do I know if there's someone in there? It's impossible to tell.

Rules are as such:
1) Keep door open when bathroom is not in use. Closed door = use.
2) If few people live there and it's easy to keep track of everybody, then feel free to close the doors at certain times.
3) Lock the door when using the bathroom, when there are people that are not familiar with your place's bathroom door-etiquette. So, lock it when you have someone over (even though you normally wouldn't), and lock it when you're at someone's.


I even had a friend tell me to close the door after using the washroom, because his dog eats tissues... annoyed me ;)
 
I'm paranoid about lingering smells, so I close the bathroom door after I leave. I spray some Febreeze when company is over, but otherwise I just quarantine the odor to the bathroom.
 
I usually go by the open-door policy. Meaning that the bathroom door, when unoccupied, remains open. Person B should have knocked on the door first before barging in.

A closed unoccupied bathroom door is a minor pet peeve of mine since I will assume that it is occupied (and yes, I will knock on the door).
 
Okay, so I didn't see this thread in april and then I went "gee, this'll be a landslide that it is person B's fault." Wow I am confused right now.

Let me pose a question to everyone who is an A voter--let's say you are in someone's apartment or house or private place of residency and there are like 5-10 people over. You need to go to the restroom, and you see the door to the restroom closed. You don't know where everyone is, so it could be occupied. Does the thought of not even trying to go into the restroom ever cross your mind? Ie. not even attempting to go into the restroom until the door is open?

I--a very strong person B in this poll--might even "wait a couple minutes" to let any potential person who is in there finish their business. It's awkward enough to knock on a door and say "yo, anybody in there?" I don't want to bother someone while they are on the can, just as I don't want anybody bothering me.

I can see the cultural clash if it's customary to always have the door closed, but I don't see why you would do that. Most houses/apartments I have seen have bathrooms that are not prominently displayed in the house, and bathrooms themselves are not "ugly" anyways. Opening the door let's you air it out, inform people it's not in use, etc.

I have not been this taken aback in a while.

edit- I guess I should say why I ask this. Because to me, (1) a door closed to the restroom means it is occupied (protip: usually the light is on too). But during the daytime it may not have a light, if the bathroom has a window. Then (2), it's also polite to wait for somebody to finish rather than be all intrusive and basically give them a "hurry up in there!" by knocking/verbally asking if anyone is in there/whatever.

So all the people that justify A are not only in some odd bathroom-door-is-always-closed scenario, but they are perfectly willing to risk barging in on someone all while not being perfectly polite.
 
I'm paranoid about lingering smells, so I close the bathroom door after I leave. I spray some Febreeze when company is over, but otherwise I just quarantine the odor to the bathroom.

Won't that just make the odor sit in the bathroom?
 
where did a person who finds it awkward to knock on a toilet door and ask if anybody's in there grow up? victorian england?

it's awkward if they are taking a crap.

Not necessarily awkward, just door closed = someone in there, so there isn't even a need to knock. Just wait like 2 minutes and they'll be done.
 
I had to register for this site for the sole purpose of commenting on this thread, outdated though it may be.

Let me begin by saying that it is always a good idea to knock when entering a bathroom that is likely to be occupied, particularly in unfamiliar territory, and particularly when the opposite sex might be involved in some way.

That being said, I am pleased to see that a clear majority have correctly voted that person A is at fault.

In fact, person A is so clearly and unequivocally at fault that I find it appalling that almost half as many people voted for person B.

It should not have to be convention to knock on a closed bathroom door. In my experience, the bathroom door being closed still only signifies a low probability that it is occupied.

When I use a bathroom, I have the full understanding that it is my responsibility to ensure my own privacy. My privacy is thus only dependent on the actions of one person-- myself. By not locking the door, I place the burden of my privacy in the hands of the rest of the universe. This is not their burden to shoulder. The only person responsible for my privacy is me and that is absolutely all there is to it.

Before I get trolled let me clarify. My responsibility to others who may be using a restroom that I attempt to enter is not to DELIBERATELY enter an occupied restroom. As long as I truly did not intentionally walk in on someone, I am blameless.

So if the following conditions are satisfied:
1. The door has a functional lock that is not confusing or difficult to use
2. I have no knowledge that the bathroom is occupied
3. I accidentally walk in

Then it is the person who failed to lock the door who is at fault, just as it would be my own fault if I had failed to lock the door when I used the same bathroom.

I am one person. One person is all it takes to secure one person's privacy. Asking the rest of the world to knock is asking any and all potential "intruders" to secure your privacy because you failed to secure it for yourself, when doing so was incredibly easy in the first place.

If you are at a social gathering with 10 or more people, you can be sure that some of them will be knockers and some of them will be knob checkers. In that sense, this isn't an issue of person A vs person B, it's person A vs person B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, and J. Do you really want all of those people to be expected to take an action that need not be taken if you simply lock the door in the first place? When you lock the door, it doesn't matter how many are the former and how many are the latter. Either way, everything is taken care of, no embarrassment need occur. This is all to say nothing of how annoying it is to have to verbally respond to people who knock on the door when you are in the bathroom. Just check the lock and everything is handled with no superfluous knocking or awkward conversation--- the kind of conversation I really don't want to have while I'm handling that sort of business.

If you are person A, you are empirically, inarguably, and unmistakably at fault for not locking the door. This is black and white. No gray area exists. If you go through your life not locking the door to the bathroom, you will go through life being walked in on, creating awkward situation after awkward situation for you and your array of unwitting "intruders."

Again, trying not to be too terribly redundant, knocking is generally a good thing to do, but it is going above and beyond the call. If you think that person B is at fault, there is a basic element of personal responsibility concerning etiquette that you just flat out don't understand. Take this opportunity to learn because your position is unjustified to the point of absurdity.
 
sometimes locks are loud (because we don't live in nice modern suburban houses) and its late at night in a house where people keep their bedroom doors open to promote airflow. In such a case it would be rude to work the lock contraption. In the rare case that two people use the bathroom at the same time, the second person lightly taps the door and waits for a quiet grunt.
 
How loud are your locks that they are louder than (a) knocking on the door and (b) hearing the person inside say "I'm doing a poo!" through the door? I've never known a lock that causes more noise than knocking on the door.

I had to register for this site for the sole purpose of commenting on this thread, outdated though it may be.

Let me begin by saying that it is always a good idea to knock when entering a bathroom that is likely to be occupied, particularly in unfamiliar territory, and particularly when the opposite sex might be involved in some way.

That being said, I am pleased to see that a clear majority have correctly voted that person A is at fault.

In fact, person A is so clearly and unequivocally at fault that I find it appalling that almost half of the people voted for person B.

It should not have to be convention to knock on a closed bathroom door. In my experience, the bathroom door being closed still only signifies a low probability that it is occupied.

When I use a bathroom, I have the full understanding that it is my responsibility to ensure my own privacy. My privacy is thus only dependent on the actions of one person-- myself. By not locking the door, I place the burden of my privacy in the hands of the rest of the universe. This is not their burden to shoulder. The only person responsible for my privacy is me and that is absolutely all there is to it.

Before I get trolled let me clarify. My responsibility to others who may be using a restroom that I attempt to enter is not to DELIBERATELY enter an occupied restroom. As long as I truly did not intentionally walk in on someone, I am blameless.

So if the following conditions are satisfied:
1. The door has a functional lock that is not confusing or difficult to use
2. I have no knowledge that the bathroom is occupied
3. I accidentally walk in

Then it is the person who failed to lock the door who is at fault, just as it would be my own fault if I had failed to lock the door when I used the same bathroom.

I am one person. One person is all it takes to secure one person's privacy. Asking the rest of the world to knock is asking any and all potential "intruders" to secure your privacy because you failed to secure it for yourself, when doing so was incredibly easy in the first place.

If you are at a social gathering with 10 or more people, you can be sure that some of them will be knockers and some of them will be knob checkers. In that sense, this isn't an issue of person A vs person B, it's person A vs person B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, and J. Do you really want all of those people to be expected to take an action that need not be taken if you simply lock the door in the first place? When you lock the door, it doesn't matter how many are the former and how many are the latter. Either way, everything is taken care of, no embarrassment need occur. This is all to say nothing of how annoying it is to have to verbally respond to people who knock on the door when you are in the bathroom. Just check the lock and everything is handled with no superfluous knocking or awkward conversation--- the kind of conversation I really don't want to have while I'm handling that sort of business.

If you are person A, you are empirically, inarguably, and unmistakably at fault for not locking the door. This is black and white. No gray area exists. If you go through your life not locking the door to the bathroom, you will go through life being walked in on, creating awkward situation after awkward situation for you and your array of unwitting "intruders."

Again, trying not to be too terribly redundant, knocking is generally a good thing to do, but it is going above and beyond the call. If you think that person B is at fault, there is a basic element of personal responsibility concerning etiquette that you just flat out don't understand. Take this opportunity to learn because your position is unjustified to the point of absurdity.

This is probably the best first post I've ever seen and I'm quoting it in its entirety.
 
It still wouldn't be the other guy's fault though. It would still be the diarrhea dude's responsibility to lock the door, or risk being walked in on. If he feels (consciously or not) that his desperation to take a dump outweighs the risk of being walked in on, then that's fine - but it's still not the other dude's fault for not knowing that and walking in on him.
 
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