[RD] Abortion, once again

[Joij21]

I want change just disagree on how to do it.

In USA that means rearguard action and wait 10-20 years. The goals are not achieveable in the short term.

Yes they are, if you storm the Supreme Court.

 

[Cloud_Strife]

I want change just disagree on how to do it.

In USA that means rearguard action and wait 10-20 years. The goals are not achieveable in the short term.

Cool so people will die and suffer and you've got jack crap to offer them in terms of ameliorating or even preventing that.

Just. Vote.

 

[Zardnaar]

Yes they are, if you storm the Supreme Court.

And how did that work out for Jan 6 lot who tried something similar.

 

[Zardnaar]

Cool so people will die and suffer and you've got jack crap to offer them in terms of ameliorating or even preventing that.

Just. Vote.

Stop using incendiary rhetoric,alienating people, focus on a few things instead of huge lists of wishy washy ideas etc.
Right wing is very easy it's mostly two things.

1. Tax cut. It's always tax cuts.
2. Owning the libs.

Repulsive but nice and simple. Americans need simple.

 

[Cloud_Strife]

Stop using incendiary rhetoric,alienating people, focus on a few things instead of huge lists of wishy washy ideas etc.
Right wing is very easy it's mostly two things.

1. Tax cut. It's always tax cuts.
2. Owning the libs.

Repulsive but nice and simple. Americans need simple.

You've got nothing to offer those on the ground but meaningless platitudes.

 

[Joij21]

And how did that work out for Jan 6 lot who tried something similar.

If one hedges on the fact that one has more supporters, and that said supporters will keep up the pressure longer, than yes it could work.

 

[Zardnaar]

You've got nothing to offer those on the ground but meaningless platitudes.

Well you're getting owned on social stuff. You just lost something you care about.

Immigrants for example. Hot button subject in USA. Illegal immigrants don't vote. That's just stupid strategy.

Our muppet she doesn't get that much done but she's smart enough to figure some things out. At her worst she's better than douche canoe.

 

[Fippy]

So who will join the Civ Fanatics Delta team?

 

[Cloud_Strife]

How is any of your advice helpful to a person who needs an abortion but can no longer access it @Zardnaar

And why does your sole contribution to the topic amount to "wait it out", that's not advice, its not even helpful to those living with the issue every day

 

[Joij21]

And not just storm the Supreme Court, but assault the capital of Mississippi as well since they are the state that started this.

I hear Kentucky is also another state that has a trigger law in place and is home of Mitch McConnell. What better way than to sack and raze the state of Washington's most evil and corrupt turtle?

 

[Zardnaar]

How is any of your advice helpful to a person who needs an abortion but can no longer access it @Zardnaar

And why does your sole contribution to the topic amount to "wait it out", that's not advice, its not even helpful to those living with the issue every day

And how do you posting here help things out? It's a place to share opinions that's all. I have absolutely zero power to change things in USA.

Is your message wrong or the messaging wrong? You're doing something wrong figure it out.

You're in this position because some one F'ed up.

 

[João III]

You appear to be laboring under the illusion that it's anyone's business but the person who is making the decision to have an abortion

You appear to be laboring under the illusion that anyone has a right to take an innocent life

See, I'm not a fan of forcing people to give birth when they don't want to,

See, I'm not a fan of killing the innocent because I consider another human life inconvenient

not so sure about you though, feel free to clarify!

My first post in this thread is on page 11. If you're genuinely looking for clarification, you're welcome to read everything I've written. I'm not too interested in re-writing everything I've already written

 

[Zardnaar]

And not just storm the Supreme Court, but assault the capital of Mississippi as well since they are the state that started this.

I hear Kentucky is also another state that has a trigger law in place and is home of Mitch McConnell. What better way than to sack and raze the state of Washington's most evil and corrupt turtle?

Well the army and national guards get to vote in those situations. Places well known for liberal viewpoints.

 

[Zardnaar]

You appear to be laboring under the illusion that anyone has a right to take an innocent life

See, I'm not a fan of killing the innocent because I consider another human life inconvenient

My first post in this thread is on page 11. If you're genuinely looking for clarification, you're welcome to read everything I've written

I disagree with your view but morality is subjective. In the USA case it's don't tell me what right or wrong tell me what's legal.

That goes both ways.

 

[Joij21]

Well the army and national guards get to vote in those situations. Places well known for liberal viewpoints.

Kill them, kill them all! If one has enough supporters they can't possibly machine gun them all down!

Besides if one feels like this is the law of all laws to repeal, the single one before a domino effect of mass persecution of minorities begins. Then I'd say these people have no choice but to resort to violence. A vote will simply take to long, they can't afford to wait if the system is trying to systematically eliminate them. Why not systematically eliminate the system?

 

[Senethro]

You appear to be laboring under the illusion that anyone has a right to take an innocent life

See, I'm not a fan of killing the innocent because I consider another human life inconvenient

My first post in this thread is on page 11. If you're genuinely looking for clarification, you're welcome to read everything I've written

We kill the innocent every day and don't seize resources, property or blood/bodyparts in order to prevent so. Therefore, killing the innocent (or permitting them to die and blaming them for being poor) is an acceptable and barely even questioned standard in our society.

Therefore, why do you advocate for this special standard of seizing bodies of an actual person for the use of a hypothetical person?

 

[Gorbles]

Stop using incendiary rhetoric,alienating people

That think you're doing, when you tell people to just deal with it? We all use "incendiary rhetoric" based on the perspective of the people it's being directed at.

You should perhaps consider why you find it alienating. Because you don't seem to consider why people might find yours similar.

You appear to be laboring under the illusion that anyone has a right to take an innocent life

You're conflating Church and state, by the by. You may find this appeal works less on people with different belief systems, much less people who have can demonstrate that in fact society accepts this on a daily basis (like Senethro just pointed out).

 

[Joij21]

We kill the innocent every day and don't seize resources, property or blood/bodyparts in order to prevent so. Therefore, killing the innocent (or permitting them to die and blaming them for being poor) is an acceptable and barely even questioned standard in our society.

Therefore, why do you advocate for this special standard of seizing bodies of an actual person for the use of a hypothetical person?

Then rise up! Storm the Court! Stop talking about this and take physical action NOW!!!

 

[Joij21]

That think you're doing, when you tell people to just deal with it? We all use "incendiary rhetoric" based on the perspective of the people it's being directed at.

You should perhaps consider why you find it alienating. Because you don't seem to consider why people might find yours similar.

You're conflating Church and state, by the by. You may find this appeal works less on people with different belief systems, much less people who have can demonstrate that in fact society accepts this on a daily basis (like Senethro just pointed out).

If you don't want to deal with it anymore, you must resort to more physical means IRL.

 

[Senethro]

Then rise up! Storm the Court! Stop talking about this and take physical action NOW!!!

Ahhhh, such a short time ago that a statement like this could be read only as a joke because of how implausible it was!