Aliens, terrorists, or anyone other than Erdogan bomb Kurdish party rally

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Reuters article said:
Turkish Kurds gathered on Saturday to mourn and protest at the scene of bomb blasts that killed two people and wounded more than 200 at an election rally, with many voicing anger at President Tayyip Erdogan a day before parliamentary polls.
The two explosions, which Erdogan termed a "provocation" designed to undermine Sunday's election, tore through a rally of the pro-Kurdish Peoples' Democratic Party (HDP) in Diyarbakir, largest city in Turkey's mainly Kurdish southeast.
Ball bearings, nails and other metal parts from the device were gathered as evidence but no suspects have been identified, security sources told Reuters.
Hospital sources said more than 200 had sought treatment. A Kurdish political group said more than 300 were hurt.
Chanting "Murderer Erdogan", hundreds marched behind a banner declaring "peace despite everything" to the scene, where they laid red carnations, a witness said.
Erdogan, the most popular politician in Turkey but accused by opponents of authoritarian tendencies, seeks a large majority for the ruling AK Party to furnish him with broader new powers. However, if the HDP clears a 10 percent hurdle to enter parliament that could thwart his ambitions.

BBC article said:
Two explosions that hit an election rally in the Turkish city of Diyarbakir on Friday were caused by homemade bombs, officials have said.

Four people died and over 400 were injured in the attack, which targeted the pro-Kurdish HDP party's final rally ahead of Sunday's election.

HDP officials told the BBC police believed two gas canisters packed with marbles caused the blasts.

There has been no official statement from Turkey's government.

Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan is seeking to gain a large majority for his Justice and Development Party (AKP) in Sunday's parliamentary vote. This would enable the party to change the constitution and extend the president's powers.

The BBC's correspondent in Istanbul, Mark Lowen, says that if the HDP reaches the 10% threshold needed to enter parliament for the first time, this would cut the AKP's majority and potentially mark a significant political change for Turkey.

There is a widespread feeling the incident will only embolden the party's supporters in this crucial election, our correspondent says.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/06/06/us-turkey-election-blast-idUSKBN0OM06Z20150606

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The Kurdish party is trying to get in parliament, which it hasn't been able to do yet cause in Turkey a party has to get at least 10% of the entire vote to be admitted (surely this has nothing to do with Kurds :) ).

Hm, elections there are nearing. Do you think the Kurdish party will manage to get in? Will there be great fraud? And what happens if the Kurdish party gets in or stays out but it is seen as the result of fraud or scare-tactics?



Ergo/Davu/Cybergodan suck :(

BTW: Best video ever:


Link to video.
 
Hope Kurds eventually are able to govern themselves. Don't know why they have been denied freedom in the past, must have something to do with Ottoman Turks and European Colonial Powers.
A nation(ethnic minority) of over 30 million, scattered mainly over four countries, with none to call their own.
Kurds have over the years proven to be loyal supporters of western civilization, yet received little in return.
The great Saladin himself was Kurdish. Europeans considered Saladin to be the most chivalrous and respectful (towards other cultures and religions) Muslim ruler/sultan ever.
 
aliens got nothing to do with bombing election rallies . Sure enough there can be a election thread soon , but let's say the A-K-P has surely validated its "other" expanded version of America's 'stan Project .

and the reason for Selahaddin being the best ? He was agreable to talk and showed signs of evicting the horse bandits from Middle East . He would fail , but that shouldn't be a reason to lambast Ridley Scott for the Kingdom of Heaven thing .

"Kurds have over the years proven to be loyal supporters of western civilization, yet received little in return" is a notion you won't be supporting once they get under and Western boots are required .
 
in spoilers now that it seems am about remain somewhat alone these days ...

Spoiler :

it's "pointedly" that Putin celebrates the PM for the election victory of the A-K-P . And not the Little Imperialist who currently is the Prime Minister . Immediately followed by an offer to sign the deal on the gas pipeline that crosses Turkey on its way to Greece . It turns out ı don't have the budget to pay the Greek debt , but that's hardly the issue . In any case the theme is well clear to see , the deal must be signed in June now that the New Turkey might not be in power in July . Now that the PM knows it very well that it was only American intervention that stopped the "coup" against him inside the A-K-P that was aiming to select the candidates for the elections so that the PM could be quickly isolated in his palace which is bigger than the Whitey Home and all the efforts for the transformation into this so called presidential "Republic" could benefit some other person , some 5 years later when the Party had taken everything in an unbreakable vice . It was this rejection that must have broken the hearts of the "fans" of this TV series (that peripherally involved the name of this idiotic poster like twice ). The chief of the intelligence service , the guy who would brandish his golden pistol in entering places on TV , went to America with the current Prime Minister and asked for clearance for his candidacy to the Parliament . Once elected he would have been the Foreign Minister . Mind you , this is the guy whom the PM took to a meeting with Barack Hussein after the chemical attacks in Damascus . Which was the redline of Washington and the Pentagon was all ready for intervention to topple Esad and establish yet another Sunni state to change the borders so that they could finaly come to grips with the demon seed , the Turks . Barack Hussein lacking spine (as of course) failed to deliver the goods ; and the PM tried to make the case . And now that he was speaking to Turks as he saw them , His Spineless Majesties found heart and courage to shut up the head of the Turkish Intelligence services twice . And more to point he walked out . According to newspaper reports here it was some 10 minutes before a member of the US diplomatic service walked in and politely told the Turkish Delegation to clear the premises , to get out of the White House . Or not ...

this is why there's this snickering at the Party ranks against the recent US commentary on the elections . The female hostess in that Party TV tried to find solace in lines about Turkey , friend and ally . The guest , naturally smiling and so full of himself , declared the US was not an authority on the standarts of democracy in Turkey , almost scaring the hostess . The New Turkey can walk on water and wipe its backside with clouds , in case you didn't learn by now .

the results of course are not that clear cut . The A-K-P can not form the Goverment on its own , despite winning 40% of the vote . This is given as the proof why the country must become a presidential thing like the US , by a PM lackey who insists the current Parliamentary model does not work . ı don't remember him at all , saying such things back in 2002 when they took the majority and country with a mere 34% ...

the tactics and stuff didn't work out . While the only lesson that's worth mentioning is that the A-K-P can not win without election fraud . And that election fraud didn't work and so few reports of attempts at vote stealing depends solely on the success of the A-K-P itself . The 10% threshold must now be throughly familiar to all , in previous elections the seperatists clearly lacked the clout to score high enough . With the almost racist Right almost bled white with the loss of more reasonable members to the promises of the new and the rest shamed by the leadership's sex tapes (regularly provided by the Congregation) , it was so easy to corner the Right . Left would naturally coagulate to Main Opposition but the infuential activists and all were silenced by the promises of joining the EU . That solidly negated the Left . Which is traditionally limited to 30% of the voter base anyhow . And the rest of vote dispersed to dozens of parties you never heard of (and neither ı can name than 5 , leaving some 15 or so that still took part in the recent race in complete obscurity ) it was child's play to win .

the difference this time is , of course , the thing called ISIL . There was always a substantial segment of Kurdish population amenable to any case presented under the banner of Islam . Which was regularly joined by numbers of moderate-beyond-doubt Kurds who felt the seperatist movement was hurting their personal rights as well . To vote for Santa Turgut first , Santa Süleyman later and A-K-P still later . The actions of ISIL , the "heroic" defence of Ayn-el-Arab compared to the wallowing on and off support of those "creatures" by Ankara made the scene for impressive American activities . That clearly show the intention and preparations for a Kurdish state to be established . To the detriment of existing countries , especially one that goes by the name of Turkey . About which the A-K-P brags much about defeating the "bad habits" , taming and replacing . Every single excess by the PM and the Party enforces that Turkey is dead already , while the failure of the New to defeat the Congregation in the same comprehensive way simply proves that they are nothing but a bunch of gasbags . Nothing without American help and guidance ... Add that to the little thing that the so called peace process has seen dozens of executions of local enemies of the seperatists and it's easy to see that the Islamist Kurds are , too , preparing for the obvious and establishing themselves as equal members of the new state , not to be handicapped later . With no votes to begin with and no local muscle to support the Police during the delicate process of vote stealing and hinted American opposition to computer hacking of results before the final tally , the glorious programme snaps at the legs . With a resounding crash . The seperatists have always had a basic 6 to 7% of the vote . Joined by the 4 to 5% of the Kurdish Islamists and a calculated 1.5% from the West of the country "misled" by propaganda that the seperatists would fall short of the 10% and all the Parliamentary seats of the South East would go to the PM , so that with 400 MPs he would become the Sultan almost by law instead of the pretense he maintained for the past year about being one ... There you have the "miracle" , the blooming of Democracy everybody yaps about . The seperatists have done celebrations in Istanbul , with the posters of their seperatist leader , Turkish flags and Atatürk ; their mission while His Spineless Majesties wait for his replacement in the White House is still to steal the Left from any Turks who might still want to fight when the Civil War begins . The Kurds , who live in the same exact replica of the grandness that has grabbed the New Turkey , are poignantly unaware that they are the pawns in some chess game where Uncle Sam is so ready to sacrifice the pawns .

yeah , still stealing the Left . Now that more than half of the Right still votes for people who still appeared at the balcony of their party headquarters for celebrations , still promising to respect those who didn't vote for them . In one liners drowned among the thunderous declarations of their commitment to the sacred cause of theirs or of their respect to the Red flag with the White Crescent and Star on it as if it's ever possible to forget that it just came this close to the banning of the use of it . It will come to no avail , despite the best efforts of the Left itself , the Left proves it has a quarter of the vote no matter what . Which provides a distinct notion of the work of the Gazi Mustafa Kemal Atatürk , a template that the Right will willingly flock to as soon as they discover our sunnier Sunni brothers actually intend to rape their daughters after wiping their bottoms with the Red flag with the White Crescent and Star after beheading a "reasonable" number of Turks . Can only be broken with increased tensions among people , after burning all bridges and ships . A few years back a seperatist bomb attack killed and wounded a number of military personnel in Izmir . And 10 000 people rushed to the hospitals to donate blood . A horrible thing actually , if you happen to be a guy who has to keep all those maze of streets under control with a weird concept of operations that somehow involves some Fear of God . Now that Civil War is a defeat in itself and with the people of Izmir taken to be skirt chasing drunkard infidels and stuff who are supposed to love Kurds because of rampant Leftism and stuff , with neighbour protecting neighbour or something . Soon enough the same seperatist leadership though it wasn't getting the love and respect it thought it deserved and carried a bigger bombing in Gaziantep . The State Media then carried the banner for a blood donation campaign , which came to only 2500 volunteers , a bit short to defeat the Gavur Izmir ... Despite calls from people appearing on TV for assistance from neighbouring provinces . To be honest , it was also cut short by a declaration from local hospitals , who didn't have the staff to handle the donations with all those numbers of the wounded already on operating tables . The intention to weaken the bonds within the country is well and alive in our so called friends and allies , luckily the less than spectacular performance of the shiny uniforms of Barzani has cooled it a bit down .

oh yes , the initial US response to the election results ... Where the dude reads from a paper with head down , to raise his eyes as some sort of an human touch to pronounce the part that reads Turkey , the friend and ally of the United States . Watching it on TV , ı was horrified that my reaction would surely be ally , my _ss . Never warmed to that colloquial . ı understand Lord Vader doesn't like it very much either but then the debate turned onto why the US diplomatic guy wasn't reading it from a teleprompter , turns out insulting the Turks must be the reason for such a jest . Lord Vader is not exactly bright , it took him some 30 minutes to figure out how that HUD worked . The one he had seen in some trade show back in the 1970s , incidentally causing a moment of doubt in Lady Vader about the proposal she had accepted just recently . Or 10 minutes of doubt as she now says ... The guy has committed his name , it takes a load more than some empty gestures to get that back ...

the only determinant of the Civil War in Turkey is the total defeat of the US Military potential , real or presumed . As for feelings about the election results , nobody has yet died since . What's objectionable in that ?

written almost 6 hours later ... Am always a pathetically slow typist with two fingers in use at most . So , ı write these walls of text at home . Finished the early part , had lunch , read some books on the laptop and opened the radio for some music . Guess what , a guy ı would expect to be a supporter of ISIL got killed . TV news also add a Party guy got beaten hard enough to be hospitalized . It may sound like racist or something , but the thing is the seperatists' roadmap involves a quarter of the country for them and "full" democracy in the 3 quarters that remain so that they can share it with the rest and let's not be delusional in any sense that anything related to Turkishness will be tolerated . This is not exactly reported in the country , now that a full discussion of it would immediately scuttle the peace process . And immediately tarnish the entire reputation of the almost racist Right , with their so benign resistance so far . Only Party media talks of that currently , considering they still need Right wing votes , with the possibility of repeat elections in 45 days to 6 months .

among the things the Party Media talks is the establishment of a Turkish base in Qatar in a gloriously stupendous achievement of strategic wisdom and many other incredible things of the New Turkey . To hold a Brigade no less ... Let's be fair to remark that anybody that gets to go there should expect losing citizenship . The Turkish Military is like 10 years late in seeing anything that happens under its nose ; hopefully henceforth there will be no more Military participation in A-K-P election rallies . In the so called anniversary of the conquest of Istanbul there was this Air Force jet unit for example . The only one that gets "blanket immunity" is the PM's aide , now that it's the law that the Presidents get an aide .

written next day : Yipp , yipp , yippiee . Alias is back on the State Channel . Now the slot of it was "oddly" filled with Party propaganda where one could see all the faces of those gamechangers , as if they were actually changing something ...
 
and you will still be paying your debts . Even after the completion of the work of opening the "route" to the Atlantic .

no , this is not trolling based on the currently underperforming Greek economy . Now that the next year we can kinda join them , if this year's 212 billion US dollars worth of debt can not be serviced .
 
Greece, I heard today is one of the few countries in the EU, along with Germany, to be running a budget surplus at the moment: spending less than it's earning in tax revenue.
 
Greece, I heard today is one of the few countries in the EU, along with Germany, to be running a budget surplus at the moment: spending less than it's earning in tax revenue.

And it is also the reason why Germany is running a surplus, given it keeps feeding on paid interest from here, Spain, Portugal and the other 'lazy' ;)
 
This past week there were rallies in support of HDP and the PKK here but they were small like you might expect since I'm not in Turkey. I stopped to watch it for a few minutes but started to get nervous something might happen and I left.

People in Iraqi Kurdistan are really happy that HDP did so well.
 
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