Alignment/Religion Tech Tree

[T_F]

I believe I've also suggested leaving religions out. It seems to make more sense.

 

[Sengir]

Yeah, we kinda had this discussion allready. I'm still not opposed to it, depending on how much trouble it would cause to remove ut.

 

[xmen510]

Berenthor, what are your thoughts on the idea of possibly dropping the Religion idea?

 

[Berenthor]

I personnally find the religions like we have them now (three) with only one temple quite nice but I can see why you want to remove them. I'm not sure to be honest. For me, the religions could bring quite a nice way of spreading corruption for example later on, but not sure.

 

[xmen510]

Well, think on it. This is something we need to decide on quickly. We all seem to be ambivalent towards having it or not. I don't mind including it, but we do seem to be having some difficulty in deciding how to incorporate it. I am fine with having it in, otherwise I probably would not have come up with the ideas I did on my own without being asked.

So, we should make a final decision on this.

 

[xmen510]

Barring the elimination of Religion these are my suggestions for prerequisites:

Spoiler :

Alignment Techs:

Guidance Of The Valar:
- Requries: Alignment: Good, AGE OF THE STARS
Preservation Of Lore:
- Requires: Alignment: Good, Tradition Keeping
Slavery:
- Requires: Alignment: Evil & AGE OF THE STARS
Tainted Knowledge:
- Requries: Alignment: Evil & Tradition Keeping

Religion Techs:

Light of the Valar:
- Requires: Alignment: Good & Guidance of the Valar
Runes of Aulë:
- Requies: Alignment: Neutral & AGE OF THE STARS
Worship of the Shadow:
- Requires: Alignment: Evil & Slavery

Once we have agreement here after discussions, we can call this finalized.

 

[Sengir]

I don't think the religions need a prereq. A lot depends on how we want to implement it though. I think we need to discuss religion itself a bit more before deciding on this.

Alignment Techs look good.

 

[xmen510]

The idea of teh Religion Prereq' is that you are proving yourself on the road to that belief. It is just a suggestion however.

Also, I agree that we should probably make that final decision on whether Religion is in or out first.

 

[xmen510]

Updated List:

Spoiler :

Alignment Techs:

Guidance Of The Valar:
- Requries: Alignment: Good, AGE OF THE STARS
Preservation Of Lore:
- Requires: Alignment: Good, Tradition Keeping
Slavery:
- Requires: Alignment: Evil & AGE OF THE STARS
Tainted Knowledge:
- Requries: Alignment: Evil & Tradition Keeping

Religion Techs:

Light of the Valar:
- Requires: Alignment: Good
Runes of Aulë:
- Requies: None
Worship of the Shadow:
- Requires: Alignment: Evil

Do we want to have Both Light of the Valar & Runes of Aulë open to both Good & Neutral Alignments or are they limited as I have written them above?

I hope to have this one finalized either tonight or tomorrow. We are that close.

 

[Sengir]

I would drop the requirements from Runes of Aulë (I don't think that that particular religion has much to do with alignment). Keep Good as requirement for Light of the Valar

 

[xmen510]

Updated as suggested.

 

[xmen510]

Updated List:

Spoiler :

Alignment Techs:

Guidance Of The Valar:
- Requries: Alignment: Good, AGE OF THE STARS
Preservation Of Lore:
- Requires: Alignment: Good, Tradition Keeping
Slavery:
- Requires: Alignment: Evil & AGE OF THE STARS
Tainted Knowledge:
- Requries: Alignment: Evil & Tradition Keeping

Religion Techs:

Light of the Valar:
- Requires: None
Runes of Aulë:
- Requies: None
Worship of the Shadow:
- Requires: None

I have removed all prerequisites from the Religion Techs. If we incorporate Religions, this will the Finalized list, am I correct?

 

[xmen510]

So, just to double check so I can either Finalize this or we can continue discussing it. Is the above list in the previous post a good choice? If so, should we consider the Alignment/Religion Tech Tree Finalized?

 

[T_F]

Seems good to me.

 

[Berenthor]

Fine by me. If we go with no religion or only the shadow religion we would have no religion techs or only the shadow one.

 

[Sengir]

I'm still in favor of dropping all religions except the shadow, and thus dropping all religion techs except 'Worship of the Shadow' as well.

 

[Berenthor]

Agreed. This way we can also add becoming more evil to the shadow religion (having it in a city for example and having it as state religion) and use the inquisition from FFH2 to remove it from cities (could rename it bringing of light or blessings of the vala).

 

[Sengir]

I would go with 'Bringing the Light' (as the Vala were seldom directly involved)

 

[T_F]

I like the idea. 'Bringing the Light' sounds good to me.

 

[xmen510]

Sounds good to me as well.

#1:We will drop Religion except for Worship of the Shadow for now.

#2: Worship of the Shadow will be the only Religious Tech.

#3: We will incorporate "Bringing the Light" Inquisitorial Element.

Just one last thing to decide. Should we limit that Tech to only be able to be researched by Evil Civs? I think that would be appropriate, but what do you think?