Altered Maps 2: Uber-Yugoslavia FTW

[Eran of Arcadia]

@Eran: It's a trendy thing to put American. Means you don't recognize your old ancestry; you only recognize being part of America. Or something like that.

Well, I consider myself American, not Irish-American or German-American or English-American or whatever; I still know what my ethnicity is. I thought that might be it, it's the same as "No Data" because too many people don't want to give a straight answer.

 

[Mad Man]

OK I'll give you that, but I can say that culturally Canada has more in common with The UK than Mexico but that doesn't make Canada European does it? Also the only reason Greenland was part of the European Union was because it was still a Danish Provence, Countries outside of the Continental Europe aren't allowed in to the union, Just ask Morocco.

Cyprus is in the EU...

Culturally, historically European. For all intents and purposes, it should be owned by Greece, and if it was owned by Greece it would be even more justified in calling itself European. Please don't tell me you're one of those "people" that thinks that Cyprus is less European than Turkey, just because Turkey pissed on eastern Europe and still has some of it today.

In the post I was originally quoting, Mad Man 2.0 stated that Greenland would not have been allowed to join the EU if it hadn't been a part of Denmark, since it's not European geographically. To that, I replied that Cyprus, an independent country also not on the European continent, was also allowed to join the EU, which means that Mad Man 2.0 was wrong.

And whether Cyprus is more or less European than Turkey, I'd say that it depends. Geographically speaking, Turkey is certainly more European than Cyprus - 5% of Turkey is geographically in Europe, while 0% of Cyprus is. Culturally, you're right that Cyprus is more European than Turkey (although I don't think you can really define what European culture is).

I thought geography was important, but since Cape Verde is considered then maybe not. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Future_enlargement_of_the_European_Union#Non-European_states

 

[Rossiya]

In the post I was originally quoting, Mad Man 2.0 stated that Greenland would not have been allowed to join the EU if it hadn't been a part of Denmark, since it's not European geographically. To that, I replied that Cyprus, an independent country also not on the European continent, was also allowed to join the EU, which means that Mad Man 2.0 was wrong.

And whether Cyprus is more or less European than Turkey, I'd say that it depends. Geographically speaking, Turkey is certainly more European than Cyprus - 5% of Turkey is geographically in Europe, while 0% of Cyprus is. Culturally, you're right that Cyprus is more European than Turkey (although I don't think you can really define what European culture is).

It seems that by looking at your post I was quoting took your opinion out of context. Never mind.

 

[flyingchicken]

SURPRISE

HEADSECKS

 

[Squarg]

I call it what should happen in a few years pt 1

 

[Tani Coyote]

Yayyy! A Baja California satellite state!

 

[Winner]

A little explanation would be nice...

 

[Squarg]

Texas Leaves the Union and we annex Canada to make up the lost GDP.
Mexican civil war causes Baja to become a US protectorate.

 

[Elta]

Texas Leaves the Union and we annex Canada to make up the lost GDP.
Mexican civil war causes Baja to become a US protectorate.

Why on earth would Colima or Jalisco be mixed in with those other states in the south??!?!?!?!???

This the obvious actual conclusion (about half were toss ups going to Chilangolandia and the rich states)





As you can see Chilangolandia holds on to the densely populated areas.

The rich (drunken cowboy states up North group together)

The Maya states grouped together (everyone knows they are really not part of Mexico anyway )

The indigenous states are together in the southern part of the map.

The "Real Mexico" (let's be honest everyone knows this is the best part of Mexico, even the Chinlangonian media admits it) Jalisco, Colima and Nayarit group together.

 

[Winner]

Interesting - you seem to know a lot about Mexico, are you from there?

 

[Elta]

Interesting - you seem to know a lot about Mexico, are you from there?

My mom is from Guadalajara (the capital of Real Mexico )
My dad is mostly Italian American


I am triple majoring in Latin American Studies - International Relations and Sociology.

I go there for about two months out of the year, though I've stayed for 5 months at a time before.


I highly doubt Mexico would be splitting up any time soon. If it would, it most certainly would split up like that though. The Maya and Indigenous are the highest risk areas. If the EZLN ever actually tried anything I don't think they would fair too well. And if the did the politicians would suck up their pride and ask America for help in a second...... I am sure America would send in the marines at a moments notice too. There is too much American corporations would have to lose.

 

[plarq]

Interesting - you seem to know a lot about Mexico, are you from there?

He's Mexican American.

 

[Mirc]

Since I'm into languages and their history, here are some maps related to the languages and groups of languages about which I know a decent amount of information:



Simplified world map of languages (colored according to language family):

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Worldwide domination of Indo-European languages:

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Distribution of Romance languages:

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Green = Spanish
Orange = Portuguese
Blue = French
Yellow = Italian
Red = Romanian

Map of Balkan Romance peoples (based on their language!):

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Note: The dots further south represent small minorities, many of them actually going extinct. Not all colored parts of this map represent a region where those people are a majority.

East-west split of Romance languages, based on the La Spezia-Rimini line:

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[Winner]

Why is Israel colored on the map of world distribution of romance languages?

 

[Mirc]

The areas where the color is way lighter than normal, like it is in Israel, represent places where a significant minority speaks a Romance language or where such a language is official at regional level.

In Israel, there is a numerous population of Romanian-speaking Jews (as you can see, the color is "very light red", and red corresponds to Romanian), but there are also Spanish (especially from South America, but also from Spain), French and Ladino speaking Jews there.

Almost any reference to Romance languages contains Israel as a place where they are spoken by a part of the population, so I think there's no reason to assume all those sources are wrong.

 

[really]

Why is Israel colored on the map of world distribution of romance languages?

A lot of Romanian Jews moved to Israel. Maybe 250k+? When I was in Bucharest there seemed to be more flights to Tel Aviv than to western Europe.

 

[Dachs]

A lot of Romanian Jews moved to Israel. Maybe 250k+? When I was in Bucharest there seemed to be more flights to Tel Aviv than to western Europe.

A lot of European Jews in general moved to Israel I hear.

 

[Mirc]

A lot of European Jews in general moved to Israel I hear.

Yeah, that's why there are also many other languages spoken by significant segments of the population there (like Russian for example). It's a very interesting and unusual case to have such a country.

A lot of Romanian Jews moved to Israel. Maybe 250k+? When I was in Bucharest there seemed to be more flights to Tel Aviv than to western Europe.

True, there really are a lot of flights there. Although to be honest I doubt they are as many as those going to Italy and Spain.

 

[Winner]

Almost any reference to Romance languages contains Israel as a place where they are spoken by a part of the population, so I think there's no reason to assume all those sources are wrong.

I was just asking When someone says "minority" + "Israel" I imagine the Russian Jews

 

[Mirc]

I was just asking When someone says "minority" + "Israel" I imagine the Russian Jews

I know I know, I was just looking at the sources with a critical eye, since I learned to question everything that's not backed up by serious evidence.