Altered Maps 2: Uber-Yugoslavia FTW

[Winner]

Why do the Dutch bastards have New Sweden, we got it first!

They don't, it's the English bastards

 

[say1988]

Because nobody cares about Scandinavia, other than the Vikings

 

[Mad Man]

Why do the Dutch bastards have New Sweden, we got it first!

New Sweden was in between Delaware and New Jersey, the swedes never controlled New York. How ever Greenland should be Norwegian.

 

[Winner]

New Sweden was in between Delaware and New Jersey, the swedes never controlled New York. How ever Greenland should be Norwegian.

Greenland is not North America in my book.

 

[warpus]

I find the use of the word 'legitimate' amusing in this context

 

[North King]

Greenland is not North America in my book.

Geographic definitions are not flexible! Or does that only apply to Eastern/Central/not-crappy Europe?

Geologically and historically, Greenland is so much closer to North America than any other continent that it's just plain old silly to call it anything but.

 

[TheLastOne36]

Geographic definitions are not flexible! Or does that only apply to Eastern/Central/not-crappy Europe?

Geologically and historically, Greenland is so much closer to North America than any other continent that it's just plain old silly to call it anything but.

Culturally though, i bet you Greenland shares more with Norway and Denmark then it does with Canada and USA. It's all perspective, not to mention it was ounce part of the EU.

 

[West 36]

I... I had a dream about this thread.
There was a special in some big magazine about the valiant efforts of TheLastOne to show how Africa is supposed to look.
Yeah.

 

[TheLastOne36]

Speaking of which, it seems like double points weekend on Cod has sucked out my map making time, so it hasn't altered since i last touched it.

 

[Mad Man]

Culturally though, i bet you Greenland shares more with Norway and Denmark then it does with Canada and USA. It's all perspective, not to mention it was ounce part of the EU.

OK I'll give you that, but I can say that culturally Canada has more in common with The UK than Mexico but that doesnt make Canada European does it? Also the only reason Greenland was part of the European Union was because it was still a Danish Provence, Countries outside of the Continental Europe aren't allowed in to the union, Just ask Morocco.

 

[say1988]

To be honest, often the term North America solely refers to the US and Canada. Rarely does a person say North America intending to include Greenland and the Caribbean (just US, Canada and possibly Mexico), unless specifically meaning geologically, or perhaps before European colonization.

 

[RedRalph]

To be honest, often the term North America solely refers to the US and Canada. Rarely does a person say North America intending to include Greenland and the Caribbean (just US, Canada and possibly Mexico), unless specifically meaning geologically, or perhaps before European colonization.

North america is everything form Panama to the northernmost part of Greenland, including the Carribbean

 

[say1988]

I thought I had clarified: at least in Canada/US it is used that way, based on culture with Canada/US in the North, Mexico and Central America in the South [Latin America]. And nobody really knows where most of the Caribbean goes, nor do they care about Greenland.
The only Greenlander (is that the right term?) I have met was almost insulted if you said Greenland was North America.

 

[RedRalph]

I've never heard anoyne, american or otherwise, say Mexico is in South america

 

[Mad Man]

I've never heard anyone, American or otherwise, say Mexico is in South America

Unfortinatly there's a lot of very stupid Americans who think that, I've met to many as it is

 

[say1988]

They don't usually say it is in South America, they just break things down to North America (only consisting of Canada/US) and Latin America (grouping Mexico with South America, which culturally makes sense).

It is a cultural divide, as a whole Mexico is much more similar to areas south of it (even Brazil, which many people believe is Spanish ) than to Canada and the US.

 

[Eran of Arcadia]

But why should culture, rather than actual geography, determine geography?

 

[cubsfan6506]

Look at Europe and asia.

 

[carmen510]

Look at Europe and asia.

Its called, Eurasia.

 

[say1988]

But why should culture, rather than actual geography, determine geography?

I am not saying it should. Just that North America is used to refer to things other than just geographic North America (potential exclusions are central America, the Caribbean, Greenland, and Mexico when used in a cultural sense).
In this case "North America" is used along the same lines as Latin America, denoting a cultural area rather than geographical, and I sometimes see the use of "English North America" for Canada and the US (although this includes Quebec), but this is rare.

Greenland is either ignored completely, or considered European (as it is culturally). Many people don't know where the Caribbean technically is (North, South, or off on its own). It just depends on what context the term is used in.