Altered Maps 4: Partitioning Eastern Europe Like In The Good Old Days

[Karalysia]

For the African and Asian countries losing that population could be the best thing to ever happen to them especially Nigeria, various Sub-Saharan countries, Pakistan, Indonesia Bangladesh and India. Nigeria, Indonesia and India definatley the biggest winners though.

 

[Tani Coyote]

..It's the best thing to happen to the First World, as well. Less money spent on foreign aid to achieve optimal results, and on top of all that...

...The enormously-weakened populations of the Third World means that it is up to the West( and possibly China and Russia) to restore order.

Yes. I'm a one-trick pony and always am looking for opportunities to start the Third Imperialism. Third time's the charm!

 

[flyingchicken]

..It's the best thing to happen to the First World, as well. Less money spent on foreign aid to achieve optimal results, and on top of all that...

No, not really. That's a lot of markets just disappearing (well, not in Africa because Africa sucks, but in Asia).

 

[Winner]

For the African and Asian countries losing that population could be the best thing to ever happen to them especially Nigeria, various Sub-Saharan countries, Pakistan, Indonesia Bangladesh and India. Nigeria, Indonesia and India definatley the biggest winners though.

Not really. Most of the developing/third world countries which survived the pandemic were plunged into deep social chaos. Some coped better than others. Middle East/North Africa were nearly depopulated as a result of (a) being infected of the initial very lethal strain of the virus; (b) massive famine following the political and social collapse further aggravated by drought; (c) descent into pre-modern conditions including tribal warfare.

The rest of the world couldn't intervene due to complete breakup of law and order and eventually it imposed a strict quarantine on the region. In countries where natural conditions were better (i.e. no deserts ), people at least had something to eat. In arid areas of the Middle East, the populations suffered a catastrophic collapse. For example, Saudi Arabia's population went from 28 million to just few hundred thousand. Other Gulf countries suffered similar fate: without food/fresh water imports, their populations were left without even the minimum means of survival.

 

[Tani Coyote]

In reality, it's just a semi-realistic prelude to another idea of mine

Oh god...

What in the world could you be planning over there in your evil lair hidden inside Bohemistan?

Yes There will be as "scrable for the North Africa/Middle East" with all kinds of consequences

...Excellent. If it's anything like the last Scramble, this means that the whole of Africa will end up being the EU's shade of blue.

...I request the United States at least get Liberia out of the deal, though!

No, not really. That's a lot of markets just disappearing

Well true, but I'm having fun.

(well, not in Africa because Africa sucks,

Quoted for truth.

but in Asia).

We still export stuff to Asia? I know outsourcing and such, but could've sworn it's all imports these days... I haven't seen a "Made in America" label in my life.

(Of course, I'm quite sure there's a lot of economic activity both export and import-wise, but couldn't resist the classic joke about China's apparent domination of manufacturing )

Not really. Most of the developing/third world countries which survived the pandemic were plunged into deep social chaos. Some coped better than others. Middle East/North Africa were nearly depopulated as a result of (a) being infected of the initial very lethal strain of the virus; (b) massive famine following the political and social collapse further aggravated by drought; (c) descent into pre-modern conditions including tribal warfare.

And it will fall to Euromerica to ensure the reincarnation of the Islamic world! (I predict Shariah going into the dustbin region-wide)

The rest of the world couldn't intervene due to complete breakup of law and order and eventually it imposed a strict quarantine on the region. In countries where natural conditions were better (i.e. no deserts ), people at least had something to eat. In arid areas of the Middle East, the populations suffered a catastrophic collapse. For example, Saudi Arabia's population went from 28 million to just few hundred thousand. Other Gulf countries suffered similar fate: without food/fresh water imports, their populations were left without even the minimum means of survival.

...I'm intrigued. This actually sounds quite plausible, provided such a virus were to actually strike...

...I almost wonder if an evil genius or two out there just got a free evil plan thanks to you.

Will there be any followups to this map, by any chance?

 

[Winner]

Oh god...
What in the world could you be planning over there in your evil lair hidden inside Bohemistan?

Dude, that name is so outdated. Now it's either Czexico or Czechbabwe

...Excellent. If it's anything like the last Scramble, this means that the whole of Africa will end up being the EU's shade of blue.

...I request the United States at least get Liberia out of the deal, though!

Actually, sub-Saharan Africa won't be the main objective, at least not as far as the EU is concerned.

And it will fall to Euromerica to ensure the reincarnation of the Islamic world! (I predict Shariah going into the dustbin region-wide)

...I'm intrigued. This actually sounds quite plausible, provided such a virus were to actually strike...

...I almost wonder if an evil genius or two out there just got a free evil plan thanks to you.

I hope not because then they'll pin it on me

Will there be any followups to this map, by any chance?

Yes. What do you want to see - Israel's manifest destiny fulfilled or EUSAF (EU Stabilization and Assistance Force) in action?

 

[Tani Coyote]

Dude, that name is so outdated. Now it's either Czexico or Czechbabwe

Czexico it is then, because Mexico has a more respectable history than Zimbabwe.

Actually, sub-Saharan Africa won't be the main objective, at least not as far as the EU is concerned.

..I guess that means that the Sub-Saharan region will likely become a den for U.S. "allies." *cough* Vassals. *cough* (What can I say, we all make really stupid geopolitical alliances/decisions, and America's no exception)

Yes. What do you want to see - Israel's manifest destiny fulfilled or EUSAF (EU Stabilization and Assistance Force) in action?

I think a little bit of both would make for some really good fun. For all we know, with the horribly-depopulated Islamic territories, Israel would be able to form a neo-Persian Empire(Jewish instead of Zoroastrian though).

I imagine the EUSAF will be stretch from Marrakech to Suez... (with Morocco under Spanish administration, Algeria French, Tunisia Italian/French, Libya Italian, and Egypt British/Israeli) ...But I don't want you to spoil the surprise!

I look forward to whatever you cook up though.

 

[Winner]

..I guess that means that the Sub-Saharan region will likely become a den for U.S. "allies." *cough* Vassals. *cough* (What can I say, we all make really stupid geopolitical alliances/decisions, and America's no exception)

I think China really wants more resources though...

I think a little bit of both would make for some really good fun. For all we know, with the horribly-depopulated Islamic territories, Israel would be able to form a neo-Persian Empire(Jewish instead of Zoroastrian though).

I imagine the EUSAF will be stretch from Marrakech to Suez... (with Morocco under Spanish administration, Algeria French, Tunisia Italian/French, Libya Italian, and Egypt British/Israeli) ...But I don't want you to spoil the surprise!

I look forward to whatever you cook up though.

Yeah, wait and see, we don't want to spam the thread

 

[Huayna Capac357]

You just forgot to tell us what sort of index was used in this map

Made it up myself.

 

[choxorn]

...I'm intrigued. This actually sounds quite plausible, provided such a virus were to actually strike...

...I almost wonder if an evil genius or two out there just got a free evil plan thanks to you.

I am certainly NOT adding this to my NON-EXISTANT list of things I will NOT do to NOT conquer the world. You did NOT see anything.

 

[say1988]

(1) there's more than one map, but there are only 2 data sets ("province" and "country" -- well, 3 if you want to count elevation) so which one? and (2) the data is old, like 1992-level old (both--or was it 2000? I can't remember; whatevs, it's either 1992 or 2000), and (3) I have no clue what "province" means, exactly, so it's either a data-maker's standard or a country standard.

Since it includes Nunavut it is definitely 2000 (Nunavut was created in 1999).

And by looking at the map I assume "Province" is the first level national subdivision (provinces/territories in Canada, states in the US, Englad/Scotland/Wales/Northern Ireland for the UK, etc...).

 

[Tani Coyote]

An alternate means to my Blue Alert timeline.

Basically, time travel alters the outcome of the War of 1812, resulting in an American victory rather than a stalemate. The end result is Britain is stripped of it's Canadian colonies, which eventually become several U.S. States.

Britain, having lost the largest and most profitable of it's colonies in the Americas, later decided to part with all of it's New World colonies to save itself the financial/military burden for a large sum of money from the United States.

The net result of this was the USA becoming a regional power far quicker than in reality, while the infusion of more liberal - and white - individuals from Canada also helped convince the USA to occupy the rich north of Mexico in later conflicts.

Furthermore, Britain benefited from the loss of Canada, as it devoted it's full time to establishing more power on the route to India, mainly gaining the large Eritrea-Djibouti-Somaliland strip.

With the eruption of the Great War in 1914, the Central Powers of Germany, Italy, Austria-Hungary and the Ottoman Empire fought against the Russian Empire, France and Britain. The United States stayed neutral, but the opportunity of expanding it's territories across the world by attacking the Allies was simply too great to pass up. America entered the war on the Central Powers' side in 1916.

The Americans arrived in time to occupy most of Western France. They soon found out that the Germans intended to cut them out of a satisfactory amount of gains, due to the late American entry into the main war effort of the European theater. Accordingly, the American government soon gave a lucrative offer to Britain: in exchange for backing American conquest of all of German Africa, in addition to Spain and Portugal's colonies in Africa, the United States would switch sides. Britain took the offer, knowing that while it could hold it's island fortress for quite a while, it would need outside assistance to liberate the continent.

The war raged on until 1921. The Central Powers were crushed and enormously partitioned. The United States secured lots of property in France in the peace deal. Meanwhile, Europe began to form a league of nations to try and prevent another Great War, the European Union. As part of the United States's 14 Points, there was the principle that countries should be erected according to how much territory could be effectively occupied, not on silly principles of nationalism.

In the 1920s and 1930s, the demagogue Adolf Hitler with his NSDAP looked set to govern Germany, which was in turmoil. However, Hitler and much of the NSDAP leadership were murdered before they could make any real gains, and with a mix of coercive and revolutionary activities, the Socialist Parties of Germany took power in 1933, sponsored by the Soviet Union. By this time, Bohemia and Poland, both established in the wake of the Central Powers' defeat, were also under Soviet influence.

Josef Stalin became ambitious in the 1950s, when without any real opponents - the Empires of the world were slowly decolonizing - he launched an invasion of Europe, seeking to subjugate the whole continent to Communism.

Stalin's offensive was successful, and much of the continent was his within months thanks to blitzkrieg tactics developed by his German allies. Unfortunately for Stalin, the United States was prepared to protect the European Union - which had aligned with the USA under the North Atlantic Treaty Organization - against Stalin's Warsaw Pact.

In a costly war, the Soviets were eventually crushed. Not wanting any more European Wars, it was decided to strengthen the EU at Russia's expense. The large Kingdoms of Sweden, Lithuania, and Ukraine were carved out of Russia, while Russia itself snapped into a population-rich European segment and a resource-rich Asian segment. The Japanese Empire - now known as the Empire of the Rising Sun - had also been opportunistic, having seized much of Eastern Russia.

Seeing the vulnerability of American interests in Europe, the United States - which now occupied much of Europe in coordination with local militias and British forces - began to withdraw westwards, establishing new democratic states.

...Until it reached France. A pro-American regime was installed, with the American President offering the statement, "Being the fathers of modern republicanism, France and the United States are perpetually linked..."

By the '70s, the alliances of the world had stretched, while the Empire of the Rising Sun had also expanded it's reach at local countries' expense. When the United States and France launched a sudden attack on Europe from all sides, nearly every country in the world chose to side with the EU or the United States, initiating World War III, which would be the most devestating conflict in human history...

 

[Tani Coyote]

...Well since nobody noticed that last map. time for a necro!

The provinces of the European Federation, the direct successor state to the European Union after some time gradually integrating and centralizing institutions.

While designing provinces, the founders of the EF sought to create provinces that were loosely similar to the old provinces that had composed EU members. To marginalize nationalist activity, border regions of former states were heavily mixed, helping to foster competition in the European Parliament.

The Federation developed a system similar to the United States, with one House in parliament being elected by popular vote and another house with each province having equal representation. Checks and balances were instituted while a Prime Minister and President shared executive power. Furthermore, power was divided between the federation and the provinces, so as to help get many of the nationalists on board. As well, to help prevent a monopoly on power, a proportional voting system was set up, thus ensuring that no party would ever gain the majority of seats in the European Parliament.

 

[holy king]

the world cup will suck.

 

[cardgame]

Why did the EF annex the SAHARA DESERT.

 

[Mowque]

Why did the EF annex the SAHARA DESERT.

Same time they added Israel.

 

[Huayna Capac357]

New HDI Report came out!

They added a new category: Very High

Blue- Very High (0.9+)
Green- High (0.8-0.9)
Yellow- Medium (0.5-0.8)
Red- Low (<0.5)

 

[Dachs]

Looks like a Command and Conquer map. Stay out of the yellow and the red, that's where Nod hangs out...

 

[Tani Coyote]

It's inevitable for CnC references to be made on CFC... we all have large collections of RTS games, obviously.

I don't remember green zones in the CnC series... I wonder what they represent... midway between Yellow and Blue? Or something more epic entirely?

On the map itself, I propose all Blue countries be ruled in personal union with green countries(green countries being the junior partners of course), with yellow and red as a mixture of vassal states and territories at war with the Developed Union. It is for the benefit of the Third World that First World countries take charge of things. Welfare on a global scale!

 

[Karalysia]

I redraw Asia and the Middle East.