Altered Maps VII: Making the World a Better Place

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Let's not even begin that discussion again ... We all know the unanimous descision.
 
Polish should get all Polish speaking areas [Lithuania, Belarus, Ukraine, Germany, Czech Republic]

What areas in Germany and the Czech Rep. have a Polish-speaking majority, according to you? :mischief:

Spoiler :
(Or are you using the Polish definition of "majority" [one Pole per 1000 other people] :lol: )
 
What areas in Germany and the Czech Rep. have a Polish-speaking majority, according to you? :mischief:

Spoiler :
(Or are you using the Polish definition of "majority" [one Pole per 1000 other people] :lol: )

ssh, we mustn't tell anyone of our definitions. It may ruin our plots. :satan:

I meant Czech Silesia which I know now is vast majority Czech speakers, but we still want it. :p
 
What areas in Germany and the Czech Rep. have a Polish-speaking majority, according to you? :mischief:

Spoiler :
(Or are you using the Polish definition of "majority" [one Pole per 1000 other people] :lol: )

several villagez in Slask Cieszynski region still are. In the early 90's Trzyniec still had a slight polish majority, but I may be wrong.
 
ssh, we mustn't tell anyone of our definitions. It may ruin our plots. :satan:

I meant Czech Silesia which I know now is vast majority Czech speakers, but we still want it. :p

I am torn about this - my brain tells me "have it, the northern Moravia/Silesia sucks anyway. In fact you can have the whole Moravskoslezský Kraj. The national unemployment rate would immediately decrease by at least 2%" :lol: On the other hand, we all know that Silesia and Lausitz belongs to Bohemia.

several villagez in Slask Cieszynski region still are. In the early 90's Trzyniec still had a slight polish majority, but I may be wrong.

I won't pretend I know the ethnic composition of every village, but AFAIK there are only some bilingual places, nothing like a coherent region with a clear Polish majority. Most people there speak both languages to some extent, or the weird local dialect.

"Ethnically-accurate" borders in Eastern Europe would probably look something like this on the Indo-Bangladeshi border.

That's just crazy :lol:

Anyway, ethnically accurate borders anywhere in Europe look pretty funny, especially compared to state borders in the US.
 
It should be the other way around; those countries should split Poland between themselves :mischief:

:lmao: ^This :lol:

Speaking about reorganizing Europe, here's the latest product of a few minutes of my boredom:

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Nordic Circle: Sweden, Finland, Denmark, Iceland (will join soon), Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia. ~27 million people.
British Circle: UK, Ireland. ~66 million people.
Iberian Circle: Spain, Portugal. ~57 million people.
Benelux Circle: Belgium, Netherlands, Luxembourg. ~28 million people.
Balkans Circle: Romania, Bulgaria, Greece, Cyprus. ~40 million people.
Central European Circle: Austria, Czechia, Slovakia, Hungaria, Slovenia, Croatia (will join soon). ~40 million people.

The remaining circles correspond with the remaining large nation states.

I was superficially inspired by the imperial voting circles in the HRE. The rationale is that the EU is often paralysed by too many member states with voting rights and their extremely varied sizes. So I propose to create union voting circles based on cultural/political/economic similarities (and the need to consolidate them into larger blocs) between member states. Each circle would vote as if it was just one country. This would force smaller member states to negotiate a common position on issues.

Of course this would be just a step on the way to full federalization. A preparatory phase, if you will.
 
How would the parliament seats be distributed?

Right now it's "based on population", but it doesn't seem to be that fair, considering that Sweden (which has around 9 million people) holds 20 seats, whereas Poland (which has around 38 million) holds 51 seats.
 
How would the parliament seats be distributed?

Right now it's "based on population", but it doesn't seem to be that fair, considering that Sweden (which has around 9 million people) holds 20 seats, whereas Poland (which has around 38 million) holds 51 seats.

its more fair than any other system i can think of.
 
How would the parliament seats be distributed?

Right now it's "based on population", but it doesn't seem to be that fair, considering that Sweden (which has around 9 million people) holds 20 seats, whereas Poland (which has around 38 million) holds 51 seats.

The change would mainly affect the way the EU Council operates.

But I agree that EP should be reformed. There are too many seats (736) and the way they're apportioned is weird and unfair. There should be around 300 seats at maximum to allow for real parliamentary culture to develop. Elections would be organized in each circle; the number of seats for each circle would reflect their population. It would be up to the members of each circle to agree on how they'd apportion the seats.
 
That'd be interesting.

You could make a complicated map detailing how each circle would be represented in the Parliament, based on the European Parliament Elections results.

Also, how would you divide the 500 million population of all the circles into 300 seats?
 
Shouldn't be too difficult. EU has roughly 500 people, so for example the Central European Circle with its 40 million inhabitants would have 24 out of 300 seats in the Parliament. Germany is twice as big so it would have 48 seats. Smaller circles would not be over-represented unlike in real EP where smaller countries receive much more seats that they should based on their population.

As for the voting system, I'd keep proportional representation and make one system mandatory to all circles. Currently, each country votes under its own system - the only condition is that it has to be proportional, not majoritarian. Which is pretty insane when you think about it - a Parliament whose members are not elected according to the same rules :crazyeye:
 
Winner's proposition is strange. I imagine great fights among countries of CEC or scandinavian circle after it turns out that Hungarians got proportionally more votes than Slovakia, Austria than Czech Republic, etc. Slovakians would be enraged that Hungarians from its territory could vote for candidates from Hungary etc.

Oh, and even if Poles ceased to be a majority in Cieszyn Silesia due to long czehisation, at least we still got her there:

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Winner's proposition is strange. I imagine great fights among countries of CEC or scandinavian circle after it turns out that Hungarians got proportionally more votes than Slovakia, Austria than Czech Republic, etc. Slovakians would be enraged that Hungarians from its territory could vote for candidates from Hungary etc.

The whole point is to create a system in which smaller countries are forced learn how to cooperate more closely.

Oh, and even if Poles ceased to be a majority in Cieszyn Silesia due to long czehisation, at least we still got her there:

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Oh Christ, no, not her :lol: A teen pop-star pretending to be Polish because it's cool, sort of. You know, Eva is just meh, but Ewa... way cooler for the Czech internet generation kids with their peculiar spelling habits ;)
 
Well, at least he's come clean about it:

Of course this would be just a step on the way to full federalization. A preparatory phase, if you will.
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Currently, each country votes under its own system - the only condition is that it has to be proportional, not majoritarian. Which is pretty insane when you think about it - a Parliament whose members are not elected according to the same rules

Which countries have majoritarian elections?
 
Which countries have majoritarian elections?

I am slightly confused about the question. What I mean is that the system countries use in electing MEPs has to be proportional in nature. Majoritarian electoral methods are not allowed for elections to the European Parliament anywhere in the EU.

For instance, British MEPs are elected according to a proportional system despite the fact a majoritarian method is used for elections to the national parliament.
 
I meant majoritarian in national parliaments.

Britain uses pure first-past-the-post, but I think there are mixed systems with majoritarian elements also in France, Germany, Italy and Hungary. And maybe in other countries too, I am not sure though. Of course if by "national parliaments" you meant also the upper houses, then it's a different matter. Majoritarian systems are more common there. For example here in the Czech Rep., the senators are elected in two-round elections held in single-seat constituencies.
 
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