Disenfrancised
Beep Beep
I will mod it, once we get a map, and a nice list of states (I'll make the stats myself though if you want 
)
)
Alternate History Thread II...
- Thread starter Xen
- Start date
- Status
das
Regeneration In Process
Am working on the map - need trade centers?
Disenfrancised
Beep Beep
Well Transocenian ones would be helpful - and if the Old world ECs differ significantly then yes.
How close are you to finishing the map? Its just I'm heading of for a week in about 2 hours, and if I have a nation list at least I can work on stats (though the map would be helpful too).
How close are you to finishing the map? Its just I'm heading of for a week in about 2 hours, and if I have a nation list at least I can work on stats (though the map would be helpful too).
das
Regeneration In Process
Not sure yet - I did Transoceania and Europe, am doing Africa but it and Asia are often such a bother.
Disenfrancised
Beep Beep
No worries, It have to wait till when I get back then - btw das; 43 thousand words in that back story - your crazy!
das
Regeneration In Process
I promised it would be epic, didn't I? Meh, you could just do a summary if you want, I know that NESers are lazy.
Meh, you could just do a summary if you want, I know that NESers are lazy.
Disenfrancised
Beep Beep
das said:I promised it would be epic, didn't I?
Way ahead of you, though thats looking to be pretty lengthy too
das
Regeneration In Process
das
Regeneration In Process
State List:
- Kingdom of Affalon.
- Tarascan Michoacan.
- Acolhuan Empire.
- Chibcha Empire.
- Incan Empire.
- Kingdom of England.
- Kingdom of France.
- Kingdom of Iberia.
- Kingdom of Navarre.
- Kingdom of Aragon.
- Kalmar Union.
- Holy Roman Empire and the Habsburg Realms.
- Duchy of Savoy-Provence.
- The Papal States.
- Tsardom of Russia.
- Ottoman Empire.
- Songhay Empire.
- Kingdom of Funj.
- Sultanate of Adal.
- Kingdom of Kongo.
- Quqonid Khanate.
- Kingdom of Nepal.
- Sultanate of Greater Gujarat.
- Kingdom of Bengal.
- Kingdom of Calicut.
- Kingdom of Madras.
- Sinhalese Empire.
- Later Jin Empire.
- Nan Ming Empire.
- Japanese Empire.
- Ava Kingdom.
- Ayutthaya.
- Dai Viet.
- White Malaya.
- Sultanate of Mataram.
- Kingdom of Affalon.
- Tarascan Michoacan.
- Acolhuan Empire.
- Chibcha Empire.
- Incan Empire.
- Kingdom of England.
- Kingdom of France.
- Kingdom of Iberia.
- Kingdom of Navarre.
- Kingdom of Aragon.
- Kalmar Union.
- Holy Roman Empire and the Habsburg Realms.
- Duchy of Savoy-Provence.
- The Papal States.
- Tsardom of Russia.
- Ottoman Empire.
- Songhay Empire.
- Kingdom of Funj.
- Sultanate of Adal.
- Kingdom of Kongo.
- Quqonid Khanate.
- Kingdom of Nepal.
- Sultanate of Greater Gujarat.
- Kingdom of Bengal.
- Kingdom of Calicut.
- Kingdom of Madras.
- Sinhalese Empire.
- Later Jin Empire.
- Nan Ming Empire.
- Japanese Empire.
- Ava Kingdom.
- Ayutthaya.
- Dai Viet.
- White Malaya.
- Sultanate of Mataram.
Disenfrancised
Beep Beep
Great, I'll work on the stats whilst I'm away. Any reservation das?
das
Regeneration In Process
Not sure about reservations, it depends on when do you plan to start.
---
It would seem that I have no time to write a summary myself, so a few things about the atmosphere/culture of this world, for the use of pretty much everybody else who needs it.
The Americas are pretty much guessable - the customs there are OTL except where they are clearly not, as in the Acolhuan Empire. The Chibchas existed in OTL and came close to forming an empire, so one could find some stuff on them as well if he wants.
Europe, for various reasons, is now most resemblant of the OTL Renaissance Europe - i.e. there is a rise of libertine thought, flourishing of art, emergence of new architectural style (after the Catholic Renaissance and the Monumental Gothic) and so forth. Heresy is on the march, but the Inquisition is ever vigilant. The whole continent has been in something of a stagnation until recently, but now the Pax Habsburgus seems likely to break down, the Greater Colonial Age is about to begin and an industrial revolution is beginning with the Venetian-style manufacturies being built. This world is fairly likely to become a steampunk, "Da Vinci Amock" one. It has been rather peaceful and humane by comparison with our world, and also more libertine - no excesses of the Spanish Inquisition, no Puritanism (except in Russia). Speaking of Russia, religiously there is a possibility of a new Council of Florence, if enough powerful people are interested.
Russia is disturbingly similar in many things to silver2039's Muscovy from NES2 V (the Church is firmly under the State's control, a powerful buerocracy has been established and an elite fanatical military force is ruthlessly putting down rebellions, plus there already was at least one genocide).
Ottoman Empire is much like the OTL one... from the early 16th century, i.e. it is on the march. Only, it is more navy-oriented (which reminds me, forgot to put in the "Ottoman Strait", do so Dis), and as mentioned there are the Genoese.
In India, Gujarat resembles a more vigorous (and Ottoman-influenced, what's with the Janissaries and all that) Sultanate of Delhi, but it might also turn out to be more short-lived, as it doesn't have much support amongst the Hindus. The Muslims like it, though.
Asia is generally as in OTL, except where it isn't. The largest difference is a flourishing maritime trade network, with resulting cultural effects - i.e. the rise of mercantilism and cosmpolitianism, though it is a steady process. In Nan Ming Empire, it is particularily problematic, as the country is divided between two large court factions - a Libertine-Mercantile one, hailing from the port cities, that is, what a surprise, in the support of more trade, stronger fleet and mildly "liberal" reforms, and a Confucianist-Agricultural one, that is against all this corruption of the traditional society and is also semiisolationist. Something like that exists in Japan, but to a lesser extent, the people there are mostly content with the gradual growth of prosperity, while the samurais that might've opposed this have been wisely send to go build an empire.
---
It would seem that I have no time to write a summary myself, so a few things about the atmosphere/culture of this world, for the use of pretty much everybody else who needs it.
The Americas are pretty much guessable - the customs there are OTL except where they are clearly not, as in the Acolhuan Empire. The Chibchas existed in OTL and came close to forming an empire, so one could find some stuff on them as well if he wants.
Europe, for various reasons, is now most resemblant of the OTL Renaissance Europe - i.e. there is a rise of libertine thought, flourishing of art, emergence of new architectural style (after the Catholic Renaissance and the Monumental Gothic) and so forth. Heresy is on the march, but the Inquisition is ever vigilant. The whole continent has been in something of a stagnation until recently, but now the Pax Habsburgus seems likely to break down, the Greater Colonial Age is about to begin and an industrial revolution is beginning with the Venetian-style manufacturies being built. This world is fairly likely to become a steampunk, "Da Vinci Amock" one. It has been rather peaceful and humane by comparison with our world, and also more libertine - no excesses of the Spanish Inquisition, no Puritanism (except in Russia). Speaking of Russia, religiously there is a possibility of a new Council of Florence, if enough powerful people are interested.
Russia is disturbingly similar in many things to silver2039's Muscovy from NES2 V (the Church is firmly under the State's control, a powerful buerocracy has been established and an elite fanatical military force is ruthlessly putting down rebellions, plus there already was at least one genocide).
Ottoman Empire is much like the OTL one... from the early 16th century, i.e. it is on the march. Only, it is more navy-oriented (which reminds me, forgot to put in the "Ottoman Strait", do so Dis), and as mentioned there are the Genoese.
In India, Gujarat resembles a more vigorous (and Ottoman-influenced, what's with the Janissaries and all that) Sultanate of Delhi, but it might also turn out to be more short-lived, as it doesn't have much support amongst the Hindus. The Muslims like it, though.
Asia is generally as in OTL, except where it isn't. The largest difference is a flourishing maritime trade network, with resulting cultural effects - i.e. the rise of mercantilism and cosmpolitianism, though it is a steady process. In Nan Ming Empire, it is particularily problematic, as the country is divided between two large court factions - a Libertine-Mercantile one, hailing from the port cities, that is, what a surprise, in the support of more trade, stronger fleet and mildly "liberal" reforms, and a Confucianist-Agricultural one, that is against all this corruption of the traditional society and is also semiisolationist. Something like that exists in Japan, but to a lesser extent, the people there are mostly content with the gradual growth of prosperity, while the samurais that might've opposed this have been wisely send to go build an empire.
Swissempire
Poet Jester
quick question: You said in the Alt-Hist that Affalon has spread away from Newfoundland partially, setting up out posts?
So shoulodn't i have so more of the maritimes, or a small holding on the mainland?
So shoulodn't i have so more of the maritimes, or a small holding on the mainland?
Well, since I have promised revenge on you for wrecking Sweden, I guess we would be even 
But maybe I wont take it, since I just took Mexico in swissempire's nes preview. I dont like playing in the same region in more than 1 NES at a time.
But maybe I wont take it, since I just took Mexico in swissempire's nes preview. I dont like playing in the same region in more than 1 NES at a time.
silver 2039
Deity
- Joined
- Jul 26, 2003
- Messages
- 16,208
I want Russia....I'll kill and maim and rape and torture anyone who tries to take it from me.
conehead234
Braves on the Warpath
I want England!
Swissempire
Poet Jester
Will you give me back Ireland Conehead?
alex994
Hail Divine Emperor!
You know silver, your new avatar doesn't fit you. Bismark was a statesmen, a diplomat, not a genociding person Though you do fit the warmongering part...
Though you do fit the warmongering part...- Status
Similar threads
