American Minuteman Patrols Canadian Border

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TORONTO (CP) - A U.S. civilian border-watch group is expanding its operation to the 49th parallel.

For the month of October, the Minuteman Civil Defence Corps will take watch from their cars and lawn chairs, with binoculars at the ready, in eight northern U.S. states bordering seven Canadian provinces.

The volunteer group will have observers in Washington, Idaho, Montana, North Dakota, Maine, Vermont, New Hampshire and New York. Some posts will be on border watch 24/7.

The Minutemen report to border officials when they observe individuals trying to illegally enter the U.S.

Peter Buck of the Minutemen's New England chapter said the American government is failing to supply the manpower needed to secure the northern border.

"People may be aware of the problem in the southwest but not be aware that the largest non-militarized border in the world, the border between the United States and Canada . . . is completely open," he said in a phone interview from Massachusetts.

"Last year we had 3,000 (illegal immigrants) that got caught in New York and New England."

U.S. Customs and Border Protection apprehended 1.1 million people attempting to cross the border illegally last year, 600,000 in Arizona alone where the state borders with Mexico.

There are more than 11,000 border patrol agents in the U.S. with 1,000 stationed along the Canada-U.S. frontier.

Washington-based Minuteman Tom Williams spoke recently with a patrol agent who said the northern border Canada is just as vulnerable as anywhere else in the country.

"People still sneak across here all the time," Williams recounted. "They may not come in the hundreds, or in the thousands, but they still do come, and any one of them could be carrying a suitcase bomb for all we know."

Following the 9/11 terrorist attacks, the U.S. Department of Homeland Security pledged to beef up border security to prevent terrorists and illegal weapons from entering the country.

Focus groups held earlier this year by polling group Ekos Research Associates for Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness Canada surveyed U.S. residents on Canadian national security and found that they do believe Canada does take security seriously.

Those polled also believed terrorists were more likely to come from within the U.S. or through Mexico, and none cited Canada as a primary threat.

However, in recent months confidence in northern border security has been tested.

Three men from Surrey, B.C., were charged by Washington state officials last July with digging a tunnel roughly the length of a football field under the border to smuggle marijuana.

U.S. Customs spokesman Barry Morrissey says while he commends their passion, the Minutemen are interfering in work better handled by trained agents.

"We do ask for citizens to contact us with information that might lead us to methods or areas of smuggling (but) we do not endorse or condone citizen volunteer groups actually go and patrol," Morrissey said.

"We do not see a place for them. We believe the job of securing the borders should be done by professional law enforcement."

Canadian officials agree that Minuteman-style groups would have no place north of the border.

"We certainly don't see any need for that kind of activity on the Canadian side. Our immigration officers are perfectly capable of ensuring people who come into Canada from the United States are probably vetted and if inappropriate aren't allowed in," said Alan Lennon, national union representative for the Canada Employment and Immigration Union.

The CEIU represents 1,700 immigration border services officers.

Demonstrators gathered in Washington State over the weekend to protest the Minutemen's expanded border watch.

"If there's a problem with the border and border issues we need to sit down together and talk about it, not walk around carrying guns or taking the law into our own hands," protester Rosalinda Guillen said.

I believe the United States has finally exceeded the limits of paranoia. I can't seem to remember too many terrorists crossing into the United States through Canada.

Wait a second! They all entered through the United States to fly planes into the World Trade Center on September 11th! Therefore this makes perfect sense!

Actually I apologize to all Americans who feel they are unfairly associated with the Minuteman.
 
Alpine Trooper said:
Actually I apologize to all Americans who feel they are unfairly associated with the Minuteman.
Don't. I'd be proud to be assosciated with them. They are picking up the slack where our government has terribly failed.
 
Actually, there's a very good reason for our government to support this... it gives these people something to do... and every minute they spend patrolling the border is a minute they're (probably) doing no harm to the rest of the nation.
 
Babbler said:
How can the minutemen detect the drugs and guns flowing across the 49th parallel, since all of it is underground?

Obviously you've never heard of x-ray vision? :confused:
 
Somebody has to keep those Canadians from crossing the border, stealing chickens and annoying our women.
 
There's an obvious solution here that nobody seems to be noticing.

The United States currently suffers from a shortage of border guards. These people are willing to give up their free time and money to serve as border patrol guards, but are not qualified.

The Government should take these people, train them, and create a "Border Patrol Reserve" of qualified part-time volunteers.
 
Freedom to waste time gone wrong...
 
SeleucusNicator said:
There's an obvious solution here that nobody seems to be noticing.

The United States currently suffers from a shortage of border guards. These people are willing to give up their free time and money to serve as border patrol guards, but are not qualified.

The Government should take these people, train them, and create a "Border Patrol Reserve" of qualified part-time volunteers.

The shortage you suffer does not exist on the Canadian border.
 
Alpine Trooper said:
The shortage you suffer does not exist on the Canadian border.

Nothing wrong with additional security. I mean, it would be dirt cheap. You'd just have to pay for training and maybe some equipment and these guys would do it for free.

But let's not get distracted. The bulk of the minutemen are on the Mexican border, and we can use all the security we can get there.
 
Yeah, but I doubt these guys really want to locate to the south. And unless they have formal training, the government will never fund them.

I see a drain on Americas overwhelmed welfare system massing on Canada's border.

Oh well. :cool:
 
SeleucusNicator said:
There's an obvious solution here that nobody seems to be noticing.

The United States currently suffers from a shortage of border guards. These people are willing to give up their free time and money to serve as border patrol guards, but are not qualified.

The Government should take these people, train them, and create a "Border Patrol Reserve" of qualified part-time volunteers.
Hey! Another one of those few but memorable times when I agree with SN, cool.

We need more surveillance on the border. Since the federal government does a piss poor job of funding and equipping its land ports in Canada, one could only applaud more qualified staffers on the US side.
 
Elrohir said:
Don't. I'd be proud to be assosciated with them. They are picking up the slack where our government has terribly failed.
You know, if anybody government has failed terrible, it would be Canadian government. They been locked in labour dispute with the Border Guards, who demand (among other things) guns.

But I don't see Canadian (or even Albertans) assemble along the border.
 
De Lorimier said:
Hey! Another one of those few but memorable times when I agree with SN, cool.

We need more surveillance on the border. Since the federal government does a piss poor job of funding and equipping its land ports in Canada, one could only applaud more qualified staffers on the US side.

You would agree on anything that involves the damning of Canada.

Enjoy being a Canadian citizen for the rest of your life though. :goodjob:
 
Ignoring the pointless flaming...
I'd like to know how does good border protection on the US side would be against Canada's interest?
 
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