Analysis of Romney's defeat

If somebody in rural Texas or whatever wants to start their own creepy ritual and call themselves Mormons, whatever, but that doesn't make them Mormons.
You realise you are doing the exact same thing Kochman is?
Groups that claim to be Christian/Mormon but don't subscribe to my particular Christian/Mormon beliefs are not Christians/Mormons.
The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is the largest and dominant, but not sole, Mormon sect.
 
It comes to something when a sect has its own subdivisions.
 
'Twas always thus. Schisms and sectionalism. They happen immediately a new sect is born.
 
'Twas always thus. Schisms and sectionalism. They happen immediately a new sect is born.

One aspect of Mormonism that makes it particularly prone to break-away sects is that anyone can claim to be a new prophet. You don't find that in most other mainstream christian sects.
 
One aspect of Mormonism that makes it particularly prone to break-away sects is that anyone can claim to be a new prophet. You don't find that in most other mainstream christian sects.

That isn't true. There is a specific delineated line of succession in the LDS church. Any old bro can claim it, but nobody else will listen.
 
No offence, Downtown, but you are starting to sound a little like Jehoshua when he gets going about Roman Catholicism.
 
No offence, Downtown, but you are starting to sound a little like Jehoshua when he gets going about Roman Catholicism.

Why? Look, Jehoshua should be able to be picky about what gets to be called a Catholic and what doesn't. The Roman Catholic church has a centralized hierarchy that sets rules for membership. CHRISTIANDOM doesn't. There are some pretty broad themes (i.e believing in this whole Jesus fellow), but there isn't a single organization that sets themes for membership.

To the best of my knowledge, there are no groups that have splintered from the LDS church and continue to teach the Book of Mormon or believe in the idea that Joseph Smith was a prophet (which, along with the whole Jesus bit, are the central tenets of what separates Mormons from anybody else). The RLDS church, the largest offshoot, no longer teaches the BoM, has changed their name, and has forsaken their Mormon roots. If they wanted to call themselves Mormons, I guess that would be fine, but they don't.

The other groups are all tiny fringe groups that cling to the name only to thumb their noses at Salt Lake, and have virtually nothing in common with any characteristics that could be associated with Mormondom. You guys have to understand why we're so sensitive about this, given the incentives for so many groups (from political groups to religious conservatives) to push this MORMONS = POLYGAMY narrative, and given that these communities are often fraught with abuse, and wanton lawbreaking. People making that connection threatens the existence of the peaceful, law-abiding LDS church.

Imagine if there was a fringe group that broke away from the Catholic church, forsake the Pope, St.Peter, the Trinity, wantonly and openly abused children, and declared themselves Catholic. Can you see why people might be touchy and say "no you aren't?". Thats how we feel about polygamists.

ALSO, I'm not saying Kochman has to call Mormons Christians. I believe we are, but I am not disputing his categorization. I was only protesting his insistence that we still practice polygamy. We do not.
 
That isn't true. There is a specific delineated line of succession in the LDS church. Any old bro can claim it, but nobody else will listen.

Ahh, sorry for the error. Thanks for the correction. It's something I may have misread in the Krakauer book.

And for what it's worth, I totally get it why you're responding to these misunderstandings about Mormons. The only way to end bigotry is through education.

I'd be doing the same thing if people had seriously flawed stereotypes about people from Connecticut ;-)
 
Ahh, sorry for the error. Thanks for the correction. It's something I may have misread in the Krakauer book.
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Yeah, members of the LDS church tend to hate that book, as he got some pretty important issues wrong and seemed to get fundamentalists and the LDS mixed up a few times.
 
If somebody in rural Texas or whatever wants to start their own creepy ritual and call themselves Mormons, whatever, but that doesn't make them Mormons.

You could apply that to many Christians.
 
Hhhhmmm so now he's making people that he's consistently pissed off his tax advisors? :rolleyes:
 
I didn't vote Romney... but I really have doubts concerning Al Sharpton helping guide tax policy.
 
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