You said Smiths as in plural, multiple Smiths. There can be only 1 Smith for that ore in the empire now.
That would be a bug in design then. Is this because the Smiths now have a vicinity access requirement for Ingots? They are not supposed to. It's supposed to be a normal prerequisite, not vicinity.
When you have 2 sources you can build a smelter wherever those sources exist. If you have 2 sources in the same city then you obviously can't build 2 smelters but you can also build 2 smelters if you overlap vicinity of 2 different cities on one source. Only the National Smelter is limited to one per nation. The minor ones can be built in any city that has vicinity access to ore.
I have forges, I have ingots. I can only build 1 Smith. I have 4 cities size 6 or larger. After I built the Smith in my Capital I can not build it in any of the other 3 cities that haave the required pop.
I think that is hydro design...
I agree that it's not real world realistic as a forge was usually one of the first things to be established. I kinda like how you really look forward to size 6 so you can kick into hyperdrive with production though. It is, as Toffer mentioned, a Hydro design factor that I feel we've kept as is in his honor but it has been challenged before. The Lighthouse was another one that brought the same comments.
Remember that building limits are in the UnitClassInfos rather than the UnitInfos. However, you'd think they'd be showing as National Wonders if it was actually limited.
Road Building is correct, but other one is named Ship Building.
BuildingClassInfos you mean, yeah, I'm aware.
I took a couple more turns and I can now build another Smith in my size 8 city. My Size 10 city is still building it's 1st Forge. So I jumped the gun on the Smith. My Apologies.
Ah... yeah. Oops.
Do you have Road Building or Ship Building yet? They are early Classical Techs I believe.
I changed map resource Reveals and Enables in some cases, so resource is Revealed - usable by vicinity (raw vicinity if cant build improvement yet) before or on same tech column its Enabled - usable anywhere in empire.
I am not so sure about that. You can found a city in a good location for a future resource, and when the resource is enabled the city is big enough to extract the resource efficiently.
Still in Ancient Era, am working towards Bronze Working and then Writing.
Yes, exactly. We wanted (as a team decision some year or so ago or more - I remember speaking with DH about it) to be able to plan ahead a little even if we can't use them right away.
I don't know for sure but I've always suspected that it just gets a count of how many resources are there within the city radius of a spot whether they see those or not. However, I did look and apparently the code stated that they should only be counting those they can see.
So you want a "rush" for resources to occur for all that can see them. Making Conflict come sooner.
Well, potentially conflict, sure. It gives you time, as a player, to prepare yourself to have or not have the resource, prepare to obtain it in some manner, conflict being one potential option, improving relations to prepare for trade being another, and yet another still may be coming with a prospector unit option (though perhaps not that early on). Sometimes I just feel I have to rely on hope that a mine will open one up if I don't have a mineral of great need.
When this happens if I can place a new city so that that resource becomes "vicinity" as soon as the 8 main tiles or even the fat X will cover it I do that. I don't wait for later techs to open up the 3rd ring. And really neither should the AI imho. A tile or 2 overlap between 2 cities is not bad at all. In fact in some cases both cities can share the resource. Have done this so many times over the years to be uncountable.
I humbly strategically disagree, at least where the first cities are concerned, nothing is more important than ensuring as little overlap as possible so as to ensure the greatest possible ultimate long run output. I say this knowing there are tremendous valid arguments against that too and that packing cities in is also a valid approach. I've come to accept it is purely a player choice. But I really would prefer the game not try to tempt one into crowding their cities together with the promise of fulfilling immediate short term needs that you could've planned your way around with a little more foresight. Thus I strongly prefer being able to have a little forewarning of where the important strategic resources are going to be.
