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I haven't seem Hamid around for a while, but I'm pretty sure he was never banned.
It was't my impression that Hamid subscribed to any sort of "great replacement" theory. He was fairly vocal about the impending minority-status of white Americans, but that isn't a fringe position, it's a widely-accepted inevitability.
 
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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...h-mosque-killer-ideas-mainstream-social-media

The rampant hate online is bleeding into "real life". It doesn't matter if it begins with jokes or memes, we've already seen the devastating consequences of allowing it to continue unchecked.

The government is doing nothing about it, so of course antifa inevitably step in to fill the void and who can blame them?

An entire generation is being taught that brown people are replacing white people, that this is a threat to society, that Islam is taking over the west, is it any wonder why right wing terrorism is on the rise?
None of this is taught in public schools. The people so affected have to seek the sources of those concepts and, if they're not naturally pre-disposed, have a motive for doing so.

The government, for its part, is ostensibly worried about the distinctions between protected political activity and criminal activity. Mixing the two tends to exacerbate problems of civil unrest.

Enter antifa, an organization whose two prime functions seems to be surveilling hate transmissions online, and then physically threatening the transmitters in meat space. Of course you need a system that can monitor hate transmissions anywhere they might occur. Twitter, the national mall, a restaurant, your local library, the post office, a blog server in an unfriendly country, etc.

Then the hate police can be stampeded in to breakdown emerging fascist orders.


Until something is done, antifa will continue to exist, even if it's only to show that the far right cannot espouse their views offline without consequences or backlash.
No doubt antifa will become a permanent institution in this new society.

Apologies I should have been more clear; White right wing terrorism.

As long as you're out of touch, I believe "White wing terrorism" is the current lingo now.
 
It was't my impression that Hamid subscribed to any sort of "great replacement" theory. He was fairly vocal about the impending minority-status of white Americans, but that isn't a fringe position, it's a widely-accepted inevitability.

Okay... there's a difference? Is the difference just whether you think it's a good thing or a bad thing?
 
In the context of the rest of the statement it was being out of touch with your other comrades on the scene. Your version of the phrase was less aesthetic.

Or maybe you mean in the more general support for a 20th century style paramilitary sense.
 
I mean white neo nazi groups/white supremacist militias are still a thing in America.
Barely. Those groups are premised on rabid animosity for Jews. It's hard for them to recruit as long as their prejudices are miles removed from reality.

The militia groups gaining prominence are more concerned with decentralization and political separatism.
 
Okay... there's a difference? Is the difference just whether you think it's a good thing or a bad thing?
The difference is between observable facts and a wackadoodle conspiracies.

That America is shifting towards a majority-minority population is not a controversial observation. It is very broadly accepted that, due to immigration from predominantly non-white and/or Hispanic regions of the world, the relatively higher fertility rate of non-white and/or Hispanic families, and the increased number of mixed-raced families compared to previous generations, the proportion of Americans who identify as "non-Hispanic white" is going to drop to below 50% in the next few generations, even as the absolute number of non-Hispanic white Americans remains stable or increases, and the number of people with at least one non-Hispanic white American parent (i.e. people of mixed race, in which one of those components is white) is certain to increase. This is a long-term trend that has been fairly self-evident for decades. Hamid's observation was that undermined the electoral position of the Republican Party, an observation which has been made many times before, and that he found that to be personally satisfying. He was kind of a weirdo about it, but his avatar was an oil portrait of the Shah of Iran, it's to be expected.

The "great replacement" to which Cloud referred is a far-right conspiracy theory, which maintains that white people are not gradually shifting from a majority to a plurality in certain parts of the United States, but that they are actually threatened with extinction on a global level, and that this is an imminent threat likely to resolve itself within the next few decades. The mechanics of this "replacement" are not impersonal demographic trends, but a general trajectory of cultural and social degeneration, with specific blame directed towards homosexuality, feminism and multiculturalism. Very usually this is a deliberate or semi-deliberate campaign by globalists and/or Marxists and/or the Jews to produce more pliable populations. It would be strange, and in my experience unprecedented, for somebody to buy into the theory to the point where they believe that white people are threatened with eminent imminent, but then decide this is nobody's fault in particular. Posters who subscribe to this later theory therefore tend to go off the rails fairly quickly, as their demographic jeremiads degenerate into openly homophobic, misogynistic, racist and anti-Semitic bile, and that is the sort of thing CFC's moderating team crack down on pretty quickly.
 
The difference is between observable facts and a wackadoodle conspiracies.

That America is shifting towards a majority-minority population is not a controversial observation. It is very broadly accepted that, due to immigration from predominantly non-white and/or Hispanic regions of the world, the relatively higher fertility rate of non-white and/or Hispanic families, and the increased number of mixed-raced families compared to previous generations, the proportion of Americans who identify as "non-Hispanic white" is going to drop to below 50% in the next few generations, even as the absolute number of non-Hispanic white Americans remains stable or increases, and the number of people with at least one non-Hispanic white American parent (i.e. people of mixed race, in which one of those components is white) is certain to increase. This is a long-term trend that has been fairly self-evident for decades. Hamid's observation was that undermined the electoral position of the Republican Party, an observation which has been made many times before, and that he found that to be personally satisfying. He was kind of a weirdo about it, but his avatar was an oil portrait of the Shah of Iran, it's to be expected.

The "great replacement" to which Cloud referred is a far-right conspiracy theory, which maintains that white people are not gradually shifting from a majority to a plurality in certain parts of the United States, but that they are actually threatened with extinction on a global level, and that this is an imminent threat likely to resolve itself within the next few decades. The mechanics of this "replacement" are not impersonal demographic trends, but a general trajectory of cultural and social degeneration, with specific blame directed towards homosexuality, feminism and multiculturalism. Very usually this is a deliberate or semi-deliberate campaign by globalists and/or Marxists and/or the Jews to produce more pliable populations. It would be strange, and in my experience unprecedented, for somebody to buy into the theory to the point where they believe that white people are threatened with eminent imminent, but then decide this is nobody's fault in particular. Posters who subscribe to this later theory therefore tend to go off the rails fairly quickly, as their demographic jeremiads degenerate into openly homophobic, misogynistic, racist and anti-Semitic bile, and that is the sort of thing CFC's moderating team crack down on pretty quickly.

It should be noted that you don't have to believe in this as a globalist conspiracy for it not to basically play out in your mind the same way in political ideology and racism and homophobic mindsets. I'm surrounded by that and yes I know a few in real life who buy into the conspiracy, they tend to also put mass shootings into the conspiracy as another part of globalists trying to take away guns in America. . . I mean it goes on and on.

Fwiw there is no shortage of right wing hate groups and their subset of terror groups is growing.
 
Barely. Those groups are premised on rabid animosity for Jews. It's hard for them to recruit as long as their prejudices are miles removed from reality.

The militia groups gaining prominence are more concerned with decentralization and political separatism.

Not necessarily so, alot of these groups hate LGBT people whom they brand as degenerates, Hispanic and Black People, Asians and Middle Easterners, basically anyone who isn't white, straight, cis or christianand what's more is that they're using the internet to coordinate and spread their ideas.

In regards to Militias, they're still bedfellows with the nastier bigots.
 
Not necessarily so, alot of these groups hate LGBT people whom they brand as degenerates, Hispanic and Black People, Asians and Middle Easterners, basically anyone who isn't white, straight, cis or christianand what's more is that they're using the internet to coordinate and spread their ideas.

In regards to Militias, they're still bedfellows with the nastier bigots.
There's a lot of overlap between white and LGBT, straight and Hispanic/Black/Asians/Middle Easterns, cis and LGB/nonwhite, and Christians with everyone else

The union of the white, straight, cis, OR Christian groups is large and quite varied.

The nastier bigots exploit particular cracks in the Overton window, especially if they can monopolize the oxygen on a particular issue (because everyone cedes participating in that discussion). Militia groups are closer to the fringes.
 
The difference is between observable facts and a wackadoodle conspiracies.

That America is shifting towards a majority-minority population is not a controversial observation. It is very broadly accepted that, due to immigration from predominantly non-white and/or Hispanic regions of the world, the relatively higher fertility rate of non-white and/or Hispanic families, and the increased number of mixed-raced families compared to previous generations, the proportion of Americans who identify as "non-Hispanic white" is going to drop to below 50% in the next few generations, even as the absolute number of non-Hispanic white Americans remains stable or increases, and the number of people with at least one non-Hispanic white American parent (i.e. people of mixed race, in which one of those components is white) is certain to increase. This is a long-term trend that has been fairly self-evident for decades. Hamid's observation was that undermined the electoral position of the Republican Party, an observation which has been made many times before, and that he found that to be personally satisfying. He was kind of a weirdo about it, but his avatar was an oil portrait of the Shah of Iran, it's to be expected.

The "great replacement" to which Cloud referred is a far-right conspiracy theory, which maintains that white people are not gradually shifting from a majority to a plurality in certain parts of the United States, but that they are actually threatened with extinction on a global level, and that this is an imminent threat likely to resolve itself within the next few decades. The mechanics of this "replacement" are not impersonal demographic trends, but a general trajectory of cultural and social degeneration, with specific blame directed towards homosexuality, feminism and multiculturalism. Very usually this is a deliberate or semi-deliberate campaign by globalists and/or Marxists and/or the Jews to produce more pliable populations. It would be strange, and in my experience unprecedented, for somebody to buy into the theory to the point where they believe that white people are threatened with eminent imminent, but then decide this is nobody's fault in particular. Posters who subscribe to this later theory therefore tend to go off the rails fairly quickly, as their demographic jeremiads degenerate into openly homophobic, misogynistic, racist and anti-Semitic bile, and that is the sort of thing CFC's moderating team crack down on pretty quickly.

Okay, well they're definitely different. I would say that you've gone with the absolute extreme for the latter example though, presumably so that "you" can say that anyone on the "right" who ever talks about demographic change is in this extreme camp. Much like the usual nazi/fascist shtick. Same old then.
 
Okay, well they're definitely different. I would say that you've gone with the absolute extreme for the latter example though, presumably so that "you" can say that anyone on the "right" who ever talks about demographic change is in this extreme camp. Much like the usual nazi/fascist shtick. Same old then.
"The Great Replacement" is something that white nationalists talk about explicitly. It refers to a fairly specific set of ideas, I'm simply reporting them. If you feel that there's a spectrum from more mainstream conservative anxieties about demographic change into this stuff, if the boundaries are blurred enough that a bad faith actor could pretend they did not exist, that is something you have brought to this conversation without my prompting.
 
Okay, well they're definitely different. I would say that you've gone with the absolute extreme for the latter example though, presumably so that "you" can say that anyone on the "right" who ever talks about demographic change is in this extreme camp. Much like the usual nazi/fascist shtick. Same old then.
The difference between the aryan right and the more centrist meme warriors is that when Halle Bailey gets cast as the little mermaid, aryans are objecting to the casting and meme warriors think the innovative casting decisions don't go far enough.

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Could be worse:

https://www.npr.org/sections/pictur...41/the-dress-hasnt-changed-but-the-girls-have

The Dress Hasn't Changed, But The Girls Have


They marched in President Barack Obama's 2009 inauguration parade.

They appeared at processions ranging from the Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade in New York City and Disney's Easter Parade in Orlando, Fla., to the Rose Bowl Parade in Pasadena, Calif.

They are the Azalea Trail Maids — the embodiment of old school Southern hospitality with a modern twist.
 
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Ah okay. So "The Great Replacement" is about Hollywood casting decisions. I see.
 
So whilst the usual suspects are crying about a fash-adjacent being assaulted another white supremacist has killed a person of color because he felt "unsafe" around him because he was playing rap music

https://www.google.com/amp/s/lawand...ing-black-teen-blames-crime-on-rap-music/amp/

And now he's playing the "I was just mentally ill card". Where are all the journalists that decried Ngo being attacked? Why are they silent on a child's death by a white supremacist?
 
So whilst the usual suspects are crying about a fash-adjacent being assaulted another white supremacist has killed a person of color because he felt "unsafe" around him because he was playing rap music

https://www.google.com/amp/s/lawand...ing-black-teen-blames-crime-on-rap-music/amp/

And now he's playing the "I was just mentally ill card". Where are all the journalists that decried Ngo being attacked? Why are they silent on a child's death by a white supremacist?

Can you quote/copy-paste from the article? Cause that site asks to install around 5000 tracking cookies :)
 
I'll happily go on record as saying I believe it is also wrong to stab people to death for playing rap music, regardless of whether or not it's a "white supremacist" stabbing a "child" to death.
 
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