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Are we at CFC intellectuals (2018 update)?
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klar_heiland
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On OP's question
I prefer the definition of the French philosopher-intellectual Jean-Paul Sartre:
"The Intellectual is someone who meddles in what does not concern them. (L'intellectuel est quelqu'un qui se mêle de ce qui ne le regarde pas.)"
That covers for me all.
To put some context to that as I pick it up:
"meddles" means doing more than just taking a personal interest to know/understand more and possibly apply that to one's own life.
"not concern" means there is no direct self-interest
Also: in a sense you can be an intellectual in your own natural social group, but I would prefer the word once that meddling is taken to more public groups.
A classic example:
If a rich person in the 19th or early 20th century has compassion with the lifes and well-being of the poor labor class and develops ideas how society culture, society convictions and society structure could be improved to make a better life for them and gathers information, spends time in developing thoughts about that and discusses that within his social surrounding, that person is an intellectual. If that person goes in public discussions, that person is a public intellectual.
If a poor person in the 19th or early 20th century, being part of the labor class, attends meetings, formal or informal, where ideas about cultural and societal change are discussed to the benefit of the position of that person or group self, that person is not an intellectual, but a follower.
If that person actively spreads ideas picked up, attends social activities (from singing together to camps and cabaret up to volunteer organising activities in groups) that person becomes a participant of a certain intellectual stream.
Even if very active, as long as the activities are centered on self-interest for the group being part of, that person is not an intellectual.
EDIT
However...if that person starts developing and discussing more general thoughts that are not always anymore alligned with the direct self-interests of the group, transcend so to say, the word intellectual can apply again imo. So for example female emancipation in early socialism. Sustainability, environmental, climate in the 70-90ies of the 20th century in socialism/social-democratic movements.
From there a lot of posts on this forum are not necessarily from an intellectual.
Posts related to get better informed or to give information as such and not aimed at "meddling" in another points of view do not classify you as an intellectual (although you needed intellect to do it)
Post related to questions like "I got an issue with my hard disk" idem dito.
Back to: "not concern" means there is no direct self-interest.
That means for me also a really genuine interest to discuss ideas and thoughts together for the good of the subject.
So all in all I think most active CFC'ers are intellectuals. Or more modest, have one of their intellectual moments here.
I prefer the definition of the French philosopher-intellectual Jean-Paul Sartre:
"The Intellectual is someone who meddles in what does not concern them. (L'intellectuel est quelqu'un qui se mêle de ce qui ne le regarde pas.)"
That covers for me all.
To put some context to that as I pick it up:
"meddles" means doing more than just taking a personal interest to know/understand more and possibly apply that to one's own life.
"not concern" means there is no direct self-interest
Also: in a sense you can be an intellectual in your own natural social group, but I would prefer the word once that meddling is taken to more public groups.
A classic example:
If a rich person in the 19th or early 20th century has compassion with the lifes and well-being of the poor labor class and develops ideas how society culture, society convictions and society structure could be improved to make a better life for them and gathers information, spends time in developing thoughts about that and discusses that within his social surrounding, that person is an intellectual. If that person goes in public discussions, that person is a public intellectual.
If a poor person in the 19th or early 20th century, being part of the labor class, attends meetings, formal or informal, where ideas about cultural and societal change are discussed to the benefit of the position of that person or group self, that person is not an intellectual, but a follower.
If that person actively spreads ideas picked up, attends social activities (from singing together to camps and cabaret up to volunteer organising activities in groups) that person becomes a participant of a certain intellectual stream.
Even if very active, as long as the activities are centered on self-interest for the group being part of, that person is not an intellectual.
EDIT
However...if that person starts developing and discussing more general thoughts that are not always anymore alligned with the direct self-interests of the group, transcend so to say, the word intellectual can apply again imo. So for example female emancipation in early socialism. Sustainability, environmental, climate in the 70-90ies of the 20th century in socialism/social-democratic movements.
From there a lot of posts on this forum are not necessarily from an intellectual.
Posts related to get better informed or to give information as such and not aimed at "meddling" in another points of view do not classify you as an intellectual (although you needed intellect to do it)
Post related to questions like "I got an issue with my hard disk" idem dito.
Back to: "not concern" means there is no direct self-interest.
That means for me also a really genuine interest to discuss ideas and thoughts together for the good of the subject.
So all in all I think most active CFC'ers are intellectuals. Or more modest, have one of their intellectual moments here.
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Broken_Erika
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Traitorfish
The Tighnahulish Kid
Gramsci talks about book-reading lefty malcontents as "organic intellectuals", and I've got enough slime and guts and stuff to qualify for at least 50% of that.
There is an antithetical quote, by Wittgenstein, that "a thinker should not spend time on matters which aren't of their concern" (or something similar to that).
Of course, with enough context (like the one you provided) either quotes can be true ^_^
Thorgalaeg
Deity
Banana is the correct answer here obviously.
Snerk
Smeghead
Intellectuals aside, bananas are pretty great.
aelf
Ashen One
Implying that Trump voters are Dionysian is insulting to the Dionysus and his adherents, though.
Perfection
The Great Head.
we're marginally less dumb
Hygro
soundcloud.com/hygro/
I don't know about you all but I am an intellectual.
NO!
-jeff
does the alien know if NIST will ever fix their tables
Are "we" at CFC intellectuals? If one wants to seriously answer questions like this, then it always comes down to the definition of intellectual.
Overall, CFC seems like your standard barely above average intelligence echo chamber. 99% of the content here is regurgitated points from somewhere else. I've been here for over 10 years and it's incredibly rare to find anything original or interesting on CFC. There are millions of hugboxes like this all over the internet.
It seems to me that CFC doesn't meet points 6-8.http://www.dictionary.com/browse/intellectual said:
If one accepts Dictionary.com definition point 9, or the Wikipedia definition, then I would say that the people at CFC are intellectuals. Then again, using such loose definitions, everybody and their cat and dog are intellectuals.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intellectual said:
Overall, CFC seems like your standard barely above average intelligence echo chamber. 99% of the content here is regurgitated points from somewhere else. I've been here for over 10 years and it's incredibly rare to find anything original or interesting on CFC. There are millions of hugboxes like this all over the internet.
Well, there one thread by someone who was trying to prove if there are infinite twin primes or not. But yes, virtually all threads are drool ^_^
Moreover, i think that the forum still keeps some people out of equilibrium. Reddit sub forums likely would provide more interesting topics for anyone who focuses on any field.
Moreover, i think that the forum still keeps some people out of equilibrium. Reddit sub forums likely would provide more interesting topics for anyone who focuses on any field.
Broken_Erika
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