And yes, that means I'm calling out Civ 4 release, despite that it still holds the best design choices in the series on most things. MP was a non-functional travesty in vanilla and the tradeoffs were not as deep as BTS. It wasn't as broken as Civ 5, but it wasn't good.
And that is the main reason... Multiplayer! Personally, I am not a MP player. I understand that you are miffed by the struggle with multiplayer that the game has had. As far as I remember, that has been a problem throughout the series. On a game of this scope, it is not surprising. IIRC, Multiplayer didn't even show up until an expansion for the second game. I don't even remember if hotseat was available before that. It would seem that a game like civ would transfer well to the MP arena being as "lag" is not an issue when it comes to hit detection and the like. However, the complexity seems to be the biggest problem. But, like I said, I don't really play much multiplayer (other than hotseat... and that not much in Civ V because it didn't work well... you couldn't play preset maps like TSL's in multiplayer). But, I'll cede your ire when it comes to multiplayer.
I'm talking about incentives. What I've quoted is a non-sequitur red herring that does not address or refute anything I said.
Actually, what I said was very relevant. Cars and video games are VERY different and cannot garner the same expectations. If a vehicle isn't working 100% the way that it is supposed to when it hits the market, lives are (literally) affected. A video game may be frustrating, but bugs and hardware incompatibility are generally dealt with rapidly. These problems, however, do not cost lives. Call it a "red herring" if you want... but they are not the same thing.
No, people make poor choices all the time without being "idiots" in the general sense. If a person had to never make poor/irrational choices to avoid being an idiot, we'd have a planet full of idiots and nobody who isn't one. It kind of loses its utility as a term in that scenario though.
So when I tell you that the consequences of your choices are bad for the industry, no I'm not calling you an idiot. I'm telling you that you're giving incentive for a firm to underperform its promises, by rewarding it for a track record for underperforming on its promises.
You are right. Many people make bad decisions all of the time. I know I have been guilty of it in the past. Pre-ordering a game has not really been one of them. The games that I have pre-ordered I knew that I was going to get anyway. Why delay it for some notion that I was "hurting the industry". On the contrary, I want to make sure that the developers and publishers are aware of my interest. I want them to say, "This game is getting a lot of pre-orders, we need to make sure that it is tended to well." I DON'T want them to say, "Well, Civilization isn't getting very many pre-orders. Let's cut our marketing budget for them and send it over to (insert name of
another lame FPS with over the top graphics and shallow gameplay here).
What you say about hardware isn't wrong, but it doesn't refute what I said. Such issues are a small percentage of the problem in these games, time-wise, because they do get identified and fixed pretty fast and it is unrealistic to expect them all to be foreseen without exception...
Look... we could go on and on... back and forth about this. The bottom line is that you (and many others) don't want to pre-order while I (and many others) do. Neither of us is bad for what we decide. Neither of us are wrong. Neither of us are contributing to the fall of all that is sacred.
You want to wait, I want to assure that on day one, I have my copy if I get a physical copy or have it preloaded when it goes live so that I can start playing right away (well, after the initial "first run" setup).
No because of the Aztec DLC. I cannot support such practices. I might get it very soon though if the reception is positive.
I am sorry that you feel that way. I mean, it is not like some other companies who make the pre-order DLC
exclusive to those that pre-order and it cannot be received any other way. I have seen that done and I DON'T agree with that practice.
Yes totally understand. It's like when I was out eating in the weekend I found out that drinks were cut from the base meal and I had to pay an unreasonable price even if they were sitting right there in the bar ready to be shipped at the same time as the meal.
Outstanding... well played, good sir!
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