Ask a soldier thread....

MobBoss said:
Thats because it takes those guys longer to learn things...like rolling up their sleeves!:lol:
Who needs to roll up their sleeves when they're busy getting the job done when you're all watching? :p

One thing I was curious about though, is how quickly they would let you settle down instead of base hopping all over the place, if you had to do that to begin with.
 
The Yankee said:
Who needs to roll up their sleeves when they're busy getting the job done when you're all watching? :p

One thing I was curious about though, is how quickly they would let you settle down instead of base hopping all over the place, if you had to do that to begin with.

That started to change in the late 90s. They finally figured out that its much cheaper to keep people at a base for five years or more than to pay to have them move around every two to three years. But its mostly the more senior people that get to homestead....younger folks still get moved around a bit.

So, to answer your question you will most likely see a fairly long term assignment at a base in the 10 to 12 year mark.
 
MobBoss said:
Hmm. Not sure how you could miss it but ok. United States Army. Going to be 20 years served this December.
I think I've heard that somewhere once, or twice, before :mischief: I was asking Lotus
EDIT:
ummmm........ said:
@MobBoss: Prince of Leigh was asking Lotus49 about his service history . . .
Sorry ummmm........ I hadn't seen your post :)
 
Good grief, who cares so much about little ol' me, anyway. :p

I spent just 4 years active in the USMC, tail end of the Clinton era. Got out in spring of '01, just a few months before 9/11 (unlike my younger cousin - who followed in my footsteps joining a year later, where he got extended by over a year -got out early '03- was sent to Afghanistan, almost got shot down several times (CH-53 crew chief), and generally had lots of 'fun' over there.

Though, I never really 'left' the military, since I've been working for the DoD since I got out, as a civilian.

It's funny... I've actually spent more time with the Army now, than I did w/ the Marines. And, as a CIVILIAN, I am more highly decorated (yeah, I've got several bonafide civilian medals from the Army... they do have them, see below).

Of course, A.) The Marines are the last branch of service to join if you like getting medals (and rank) thrown at you. And B.) I served active duty during the Clinton years (not durign this whole GWOT -Global War On Terror- thing). When I was in, the military had nothing better to do, that play mind games with eachother, thus it wasn't exactly 'fun'. But, now they've got a real purpose. Of course, I think even they are starting to wonder about that 'purpose'. But, they'll go along with it. Always do. That's their job.

My precious............. I have 3 of them. If that doesn't tell you the Army throw medals at their people, I don't know what does. Though admittedly, I have played an integral role over the past years. Not any more though! Now I just sit around. And get paid more than ever before. :D
 
Padma said:
C) ??? Just look at them! Read Lotus49's post just a little ways above. ;)

I have been trying to get into the Air Force for over 4 years now. Despite my (over)qualifications, it's hard as heck. I know the reality of the matter, though - and that is that the USAF is paranoid about Marines. They think Marines have too many screws loose. :crazyeye: It's a bias, that just ain't true, I tell ya. Especially in my case.

"Equal Opportunity Employer" my arse. :shake:

I'll get there.... eventually. Eventually my sheer volume of experience will make you unable to turn me down! :mischief:

Then... it's stepping-stone over to the FAA, someday. Maybe. Depends on just how good the Air Force really is. I think of Air Force employment, in the same way the ancients marvelled at stories about the Hanging Gardens of Babylon...

:eek:

And just think, when I was 18, I could have just "signed up", and joined 'the club' just that easy. What was I thinking? Had something to prove... :rolleyes:
 
I have several questions for you:

1. How are promotions determined for E1 to E9?

2. Is it possible to change branches?

3. Requirements for becoming a W1?

4. Any direct commissions from enlisted to O1?

Thanks,
USN (1964-1994)
 
Lotus49 said:
I have been trying to get into the Air Force for over 4 years now. Despite my (over)qualifications, it's hard as heck. I know the reality of the matter, though - and that is that the USAF is paranoid about Marines. They think Marines have too many screws loose. :crazyeye: It's a bias, that just ain't true, I tell ya. Especially in my case.

Screws loose on any plane is a bad thing :lol:

Most of the former servicemen that are on campus now (not marines) used to play mindgames and harass the marines. The stories they tell of them are hilarious. Funniest part is the marines usually took it hook, line, sinker, and the whole rest of the pole!

Though I still personally respect the marines.
 
7ronin said:
I have several questions for you:

1. How are promotions determined for E1 to E9?

E1-E4 are done on a timeline automatically. Once you have the time in service and time in grade gate met you are automatically promoted unless your Company Commander denys it (very rare).

E5-E8 are done via a promotion point system. A lot of this is under soldier control: i.e. you get points for college course, you get points for how well you qualify with your weapon or how high you score on your PT test, etc. etc. You compete against peers in your own jobskill (MOS). Your points are all added up into a total. The army puts out a cutoff line for promotions, if your total points are above that line you get promoted.

The E9 selection process is a bit more in depth as those boards are for the Sergeant Majors and Command Sergeant Majors.

2. Is it possible to change branches?

You mean go from Army to Air Force or vice versa? Yes, although there is usually a reduction in rank involved in such a branch change. By that I mean if a SSG opts to go to the airforce most of the time they will only let him do that if he takes a reduction to SGT.

If you meant branches within the Army, i.e. Ordanance to Intelligence, yes, this is possible as well, but usually only as a re-enlistment option.

3. Requirements for becoming a W1?

Not all that much. The process involves putting in a packet for acceptance and be able to be selected in that process ahead of your peers. There are age requirements for being a pilot however...you have to have flight school all completed prior to 30 years of age, so plan accordingly. For other warrant officer positions, I am unaware of an age limitation or any harsh requirements.

4. Any direct commissions from enlisted to O1?

Not typically, although it is possible if you are a lawyer, doctor, or preacher/priest or have a rare civilian skill that the army needs.

If you really wanted to get a commission, putting in a packet to go to OCS is the way for enlisted to do it. Selection process is much like a warrant officer packet - you compete for slots, but once your in, I hear the schools are fairly easy. Kind of like an extended basic training (mess with you a lot).
 
AL_DA_GREAT said:
Have I got the ranks in the right order? sorry for spelling
sargeant
liutenant
captain
major
colonel
brigadier
admiral
general

Sergeant
Lieutenant

The others are spelled correctly. You are missing a few. Here it is.

Private
Private 2nd Class
Private First Class (PFC)
Corporal/Specialist
Sergeant
Staff Sergeant
Sergeant First Class
Master Sergeant/First Sergeant
Sergeant Major
Command Sergeant Major

2nd Lieutenant
1st Lieutenant
Captain
Major
Lt. Colonel
Colonel
Brigadier General (1 star)
Major General (2 star)
Lieutenant General (3 star)
General (4 star)
 
Don't forget the O-11 (5 star) you guys have... though likely won't ever see again. But still, it exists.

Go for it, MobBoss, you can do it. I believe in you...
 
IglooDude said:
That'd be it. I must have hollered "Go Navy, Beat Army" a hundred times a day during my plebe year. The football team can lose every game but one, and it will still be considered a successful season if that one win is over West Point. Both Annapolis and West Point consider the Air Force Academy a sort of weak younger brother to kick around, too.
Apparently things have changed a bit since I lived on th eAir Force Academy. (Now the Falcons aren't as good) But even so, they're still better than the Army or Navy teams. ;) Being one of three teams, and having won 16 the Commander in Chief's trophy 16 years in the past 32 isn't bad.

Interservice sports rivalries are fun. :)
 
Lotus49 said:
Don't forget the O-11 (5 star) you guys have... though likely won't ever see again. But still, it exists.

Go for it, MobBoss, you can do it. I believe in you...

I dont predict we will ever see such a rank again, unless of course its WWIII or some other dire situation.

As for me....you be a crazy man...:lol:
 
Elrohir said:
Apparently things have changed a bit since I lived on th eAir Force Academy. (Now the Falcons aren't as good) But even so, they're still better than the Army or Navy teams. ;) Being one of three teams, and having won 16 the Commander in Chief's trophy 16 years in the past 32 isn't bad.

Interservice sports rivalries are fun. :)

Actually, for the past 2-3 years Navy has been the best. They've even won a bowl game or two.
 
MobBoss said:
I dont predict we will ever see such a rank again, unless of course its WWIII or some other dire situation.

As for me....you be a crazy man...:lol:

Perhaps Col. MobBoss or maybe Major MobBoss :lol: :crazyeye: :mischief:
 
A. What was the worst or most unpleasant thing to give up when you joined?

B. What was the worst or most unpleasant part of basic training?

C. Is a five star General just called general, no prefixes (well, like brigadier, major, etc)?
 
Tank_Guy#3 said:
Perhaps Col. MobBoss or maybe Major MobBoss :lol: :crazyeye: :mischief:

Hopefully, in the not-so-distant future I really want to have the title "Mr. Mobboss".

That will suit me just fine thank you very much.:D

Tank_Guy#3 said:
A. What was the worst or most unpleasant thing to give up when you joined?

Easy. Being away from my wife for 5-6 months.

B. What was the worst or most unpleasant part of basic training?

Ah, I went through basic training at Fort Knox, KY, Feb, March April of 1987. The worst thing about the whole deal was the weather...it snowed a lot and was cold as heck. Our first field trip out to the range resulted in three guys getting frost bite...we were in little tents (shelter halfs) and it snowed like 6 inches. I remember not being able to grip my spork for breakfast that morning my hands were so cold....I just slid the runny eggs into my mouth with the side of my hand. Hehe. Also, the friggin DIs answer to the cold was just more PT.....we would be shivering and the DI would ask us if we were cold...of course we would say "NO!", but then he would say something like, "ok, my darlings, you RUN until I GET WARM". bastids.

C. Is a five star General just called general, no prefixes (well, like brigadier, major, etc)?

Official title is General of the Army.
 
MobBoss said:
Private
Private 2nd Class
Private First Class (PFC)
Corporal/Specialist
Sergeant
Staff Sergeant
Sergeant First Class
Master Sergeant/First Sergeant
Sergeant Major
Command Sergeant Major

2nd Lieutenant
1st Lieutenant
Captain
Major
Lt. Colonel
Colonel
Brigadier General (1 star)
Major General (2 star)
Lieutenant General (3 star)
General (4 star)
General of the Army (5 star)
I hope I am not stepping on anyone's toes if I post up the ranks from the US Navy/Coast Guard. Since I do collect small Militaria items such as rank insignias and patches.

Seaman Recruit
Seaman Apprentace
Seaman
Petty Officer 3rd Class
Petty Officer 2nd Class
Petty Officer 1st Class
Chief Petty Officer
Senior Chief Petty Officer
Master Chief Petty Officer/Command Master Chief Petty Officer

Ensign
Lt. Junior Grade
Lieutenant
Lieutenant Commander
Commander
Captain
Rear Admiral Lower Half (aka Commodore) (1 star)
Rear Admiral Upper Half (2 star)
Vice Admiral (3 star)
Admiral (4 star)
Fleet Admiral (5 star)
 
Lotus49 said:
Don't forget the O-11 (5 star) you guys have... though likely won't ever see again. But still, it exists.

Go for it, MobBoss, you can do it. I believe in you...
And the definitely will not see again rank of General of the Armies.

Though, I never really 'left' the military, since I've been working for the DoD since I got out, as a civilian.
Maybe it's tangential to all this, but what kind of work is open to a civilian at DoD and how would one go about getting it? Though I'm sure your official service helped.

MobBoss said:
So, to answer your question you will most likely see a fairly long term assignment at a base in the 10 to 12 year mark.
That would be a nice, optimal time for settling down with a family, assuming one joined straight out of high school. Myself, I was looking to see if I could pull in some embassy duty somewhere if I got in.
 
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